RLJ London

[BentMikey]

ah the bliss of not knowing...

Not knowing what?

What are you talking about?

Bet I know more than you.I probably have been doing it a damn sight longer than you.

+1 to Hackers.

RLJing is nothing more than impatience and selfishness.

 

[Notsoblue]

+1

 

[hackbike 6]

+1 to Hackers.

RLJing is nothing more than impatience and selfishness.

IMO it's the same mentality as the clowns in their metal boxes.

 

[Riding in Circles]

I was there most of the afternoon, had the folder with me, I started at Victoria at 1pm, had a meeting at Capital Radio on Leicester Square between 2 and 3:30 then cycled up to St. Pauls and had a coffee then up to Cannon Street, a lot of them were couriers but there were some commuter/ general public types as well.

 

[Notsoblue]

I was there most of the afternoon, had the folder with me, I started at Victoria at 1pm, had a meeting at Capital Radio on Leicester Square between 2 and 3:30 then cycled up to St. Pauls and had a coffee then up to Cannon Street, a lot of them were couriers but there were some commuter/ general public types as well.

What kind of junctions did they RLJ through?

 

[Riding in Circles]

What kind of junctions did they RLJ through?

T junctions, ped crossings, I think there is one cross roads there and some other types, y shaped and the like, a courier almost t-boned me on one junction, it's just as well I was paying attention.

 

[User482]

I'm afraid that justifications for RLJ are no better than those made by safe-speed types for breaking the speed limit.

 

[Notsoblue]

T junctions, ped crossings, I think there is one cross roads there and some other types, y shaped and the like, a courier almost t-boned me on one junction, it's just as well I was paying attention.

I RLJ. I can't justify it because its breaking the law. There are certain junctions where the traffic is stopped to allow traffic from another direction, if there is obviously nothing coming, I will occaisionally go through red depending on how much I value my momentum at the time. I've never jumped a red light and put myself or anyone else in danger as a result. And I wouldn't do it on just any junction. There are a couple on my journey that would be suicide to jump through.

My 2p, though I'm sure it will mean nothing to those who are rabidly against any RLJ under any circumstances, ever.

 

[bryce]

Consider this:

Cycling for you is either:

1: An enjoyable hobby, which you want others to look upon favourably - so you abide by the law; or

2: A means from A-B (home-work) when, like any other commuter, you want to complete the journey as quickly as possible.

We need to distinguish between 'real' cyclists (1) and commuters (2). It's unfortunate that the second type afflict the perception of us (all type 1s I assume) but doesn't mean we can't educate them (i.e. stop them RLJing if possible and lead by example).

All about education.

 

[redjedi]

I was in London this afternoon, not one cyclist I saw stopped at a red light, every single one jumped any red light they came to, a couple very nearly caused accidents.

We don't all RLJ in London, you obviously didn't see me.

There is no excuse for RLJing, it's just impatience.

 

[redjedi]

Consider this:

Cycling for you is either:

1: An enjoyable hobby, which you want others to look upon favourably - so you abide by the law; or

2: A means from A-B (home-work) when, like any other commuter, you want to complete the journey as quickly as possible.

We need to distinguish between 'real' cyclists (1) and commuters (2). It's unfortunate that the second type afflict the perception of us (all type 1s I assume) but doesn't mean we can't educate them (i.e. stop them RLJing if possible and lead by example).

All about education.

Can I be a 1 & half please?
I commute daily and want to finish my journey as quickly as possible, but I also want others to look upon me favourably - so abide by the law.

 

[swee'pea99]

Surely whether or not you're a 'real' cyclist depends on whether you 'really' ride a bike, not why. Oh, and thanks for the offer of education. I'll, um, get back to you on that...

 

[Notsoblue]

Consider this:

Cycling for you is either:

1: An enjoyable hobby, which you want others to look upon favourably - so you abide by the law; or

2: A means from A-B (home-work) when, like any other commuter, you want to complete the journey as quickly as possible.

We need to distinguish between 'real' cyclists (1) and commuters (2). It's unfortunate that the second type afflict the perception of us (all type 1s I assume) but doesn't mean we can't educate them (i.e. stop them RLJing if possible and lead by example).

All about education.

Occaisonally RLJ has nothing to do with wether or not you're a "real" cyclist, whatever that is.

 

[BentMikey]

Can't agree with you there Bryce, I think anyone riding a bike, for whatever reason, is a real cyclist.

 

[goo_mason]

Sorry Bryce - I'm a commuter but I fit into both 1 & 2, yet I don't RLJ.

You need to re-formulate your definitions, I think