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Can I ask what relevance this is? would you decide to drive your car through a red light if the junction was quiet?1 - It looks like a fairly quiet junction,
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Can I ask what relevance this is? would you decide to drive your car through a red light if the junction was quiet?1 - It looks like a fairly quiet junction,
It irks me a bit when I'm out and about that peds do that (no fault of their own); when if they had crossed initially I wouldn't have even had to stop or unclip!How many times have we seen them whizz through the lights when peds are crossing though.Now peds don't expect cyclists to stop.
Anybody jumping a red light in whatever vehicle is a moron (except in extreme safty first scenarios). There is no reason for cyclists to jump the lights and those that do are giving us all a bad name.
Sorry but they do give us a bad name. To argue otherwise is wrong and stupid. Do we deserve less respect or safe treatment because of it? Of course not but that's not the issue. The point is that these w*****s RLJing do give all of us a bad name and because of it we get less respect. Start a conversation at work or down the pub with a non-cyclist and it's fairly sure that at some point RLJing will be raised and it will be assumed that we all do it unless prove otherwise. That's why we need to beat these people with a rusty metal bar until they stop.No they're not. The argument that other cyclists' rule breaking means all of us are less deserving of respect or safe treatment is pernicious and idiotic.
Do all motorists have a bad name because some speed, jump reds and drive with mobiles? No. Arguments suggesting collective responsibility are wrong and stupid.
Sorry but they do give us a bad name. To argue otherwise is wrong and stupid. Do we deserve less respect or safe treatment because of it? Of course not but that's not the issue. The point is that these w*****s RLJing do give all of us a bad name and because of it we get less respect. Start a conversation at work or down the pub with a non-cyclist and it's fairly sure that at some point RLJing will be raised and it will be assumed that we all do it unless prove otherwise. That's why we need to beat these people with a rusty metal bar until they stop.
I was shaking my head this morning at a few cyclists who'd RLJ'd, when the guy in the car next to me wound his window down and said 'Nice to see some of you know the rules!'
How will we ever find out until we get rid of the idiots? I tend to find that once I get past the "Do you RLJ" question most people I speak to actually have a fair bit of respect for what I do on a bike.I couldn't disagree more. People who dislike cyclists would do so even we all behaved perfectly. It's an excuse.
Why should drivers apologise for the inertia and inaction of a concrete post?As far as I'm concerned, drivers deserve ZERO respect until they apologise for killing Diana.