Road tax

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Psycolist

NINJA BYKALIST
Location
North Essex
All this is being lost on me..........Why should we cyclists be concerned about low emmision cars being given cheaper tax. Its an ongoing project to encourage car manufacturers to clean up exhaust gasses....Wots the problem with that ?
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
The term "Road Tax" has been abolished. It is now called Vehicle Excercise Duty.

The tax is not for using the roads, VED is based on vehicle emissions. Motorists get confused and beleive that Road Tax is what they pay to use the road, so they blame us for not paying Road Tax.
As VED is based upon emissions, it means that electric cars such as the Gi-wiz and Tesla dont pay it. It is the same for bicycles. We do not produce any emissions (except from the odd fart) so we do not need to pay VED.
If everyone only used the term VED it would massively decrease the amount of disputes on the roads involving cyclists and motorists about Road Tax.
 
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gambatte

Middle of the pack...
Location
S Yorks
Hi Psycholist,
It was abolished over half a century ago.
ignorance allows drivers to argue "get off the road, you don't pay road tax" despite the fact no one does. This attitude of ownership of the road was partly the reason for it being abolished. As Matt says plenty of vehicles are zero £ VED or Exempt.
Roads are paid for out of general taxation.
Also if the amount of VED payed gives an entitlement to the road, I've yet to see a car pull over to let an HGV go past.

So you've had the basics in a couple of posts.

Hang around. Its one of those subjects that comes up a lot, like Hi-Viz and helmets. Unlike those though, this is one where we all seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet
 

Psycolist

NINJA BYKALIST
Location
North Essex
Hi Psycholist,
It was abolished over half a century ago.
ignorance allows drivers to argue "get off the road, you don't pay road tax" despite the fact no one does. This attitude of ownership of the road was partly the reason for it being abolished. As Matt says plenty of vehicles are zero £ VED or Exempt.
Roads are paid for out of general taxation.
Also if the amount of VED payed gives an entitlement to the road, I've yet to see a car pull over to let an HGV go past.

So you've had the basics in a couple of posts.

Hang around. Its one of those subjects that comes up a lot, like Hi-Viz and helmets. Unlike those though, this is one where we all seem to be singing off the same hymn sheet
Many thanx, I was somewhat bemused by the topic appearing on this site but you have explained its presence both clearly and conscise consise consciceley briefly. Ta
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
I just read in the paper that that Chloe Smith, a Treasury minister, has said that VED needed to be reformed in order " to support the sustainability of public finances". I just love her use of the all-encompassing b***ocks word. A classic.
 
I used to use the log book when I went to the Post Office to tax the car, but these days I do it online.

The road tax on my car is not as cheap as it was.

I use a Dyson to hoover my floors. If I want to call someone, I just dial their number.

If I told my wife I was popping out to sort out my VED, she might think I'd picked up an STI. This might compromise the integrity of our marriage.

Language can change slowly, but we all generally know what we mean.

There are some knuckle-headed morons on the road who shout silly things at pther road users, but there may be a case here for collectively getting over ourselves and accepting that the vast majority of drivers know what VED is and how it is used.

For whom is this really an issue?
 
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