Road tax

[4F]

but there may be a case here for collectively getting over ourselves and accepting that the vast majority of drivers know what VED is and how it is used.

Absolutely spot on, totally agree

 

[400bhp]

Yeah agree.

I can't help thinking that when you say the words "it's not a tax it's Vehicle Exise Duty" you need to be holding your nose whist saying it.

 

[Linford]

The term "Road Tax" has been abolished. It is now called Vehicle Excercise Duty.

The tax is not for using the roads, VED is based on vehicle emissions. Motorists get confused and beleive that Road Tax is what they pay to use the road, so they blame us for not paying Road Tax.
As VED is based upon emissions, it means that electric cars such as the Gi-wiz and Tesla dont pay it. It is the same for bicycles. We do not produce any emissions (except from the odd fart) so we do not need to pay VED.
If everyone only used the term VED it would massively decrease the amount of disputes on the roads involving cyclists and motorists about Road Tax.

Emission based VED is a fairly rubbish way of deciding who and what gets to go in the roads atthe end of the day. It is about time it is abolished. Then this claim can be put to bed.

 

[Dan B]

there may be a case here for collectively getting over ourselves and accepting that the vast majority of drivers
know what VED is and how it is used.

For whom is this really an issue?

John 'You want to join our gang, get trained and pay up' Griffin's name is the first that springs to mind

 

[cloggsy]

I just read in the paper that that Chloe Smith, a Treasury minister, has said that VED needed to be reformed in order " to support the sustainability of public finances". I just love her use of the all-encompassing b***ocks word. A classic.

"to support the sustainability of public finances" = So we can tax the b'stards even more!

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

... the vast majority of drivers know what VED is and how it is used.

You really think so? I think the vast majority of VED payers really do think they are paying specifically for the upkeep of the roads.

 

[sabian92]

You really think so? I think the vast majority of VED payers really do think they are paying specifically for the upkeep of the roads.

They should rename it "Vehicle Emissions Duty".

They wouldn't even need to spend millions deciding what the initials would be because I've just done it for them.

 

[Mushroomgodmat]

You really think so? I think the vast majority of VED payers really do think they are paying specifically for the upkeep of the roads.

Agree.

9/10 people call it road tax, 9/10 people think by paying it they are paying for the upkeep of the roads.

 

[Boris Bajic]

They should rename it "Vehicle Emissions Duty".

They wouldn't even need to spend millions deciding what the initials would be because I've just done it for them.

I quite like Road Tax....

... with the sense that payment of same is prerequisite to the use on the public highway of the vehicle for which it is paid (excluding those which are zero-rated by virtue of emissions or age).

 

[LosingFocus]

I got in this discussion last night when I was ranting at the BBC Red Button News article that has "Road Tax" as it's title. My wife, after listening politely for a few minutes said:

"You make sense, but while the legally need to pay VED to use your car on the road, it will also be seen as a road tax"

Indeed, I thought. It's a bloody good point.

 

[sabian92]

I quite like Road Tax....

... with the sense that payment of same is prerequisite to the use on the public highway of the vehicle for which it is paid (excluding those which are zero-rated by virtue of emissions or age).

Road tax implies 1 group of users own it - they don't. People would see it as bikes don't have tax discs, so they have no right to use the road when in fact we do. It's wrong.

 

[LosingFocus]

I quite like Road Tax....

... with the sense that payment of same is prerequisite to the use on the public highway of the vehicle for which it is paid (excluding those which are zero-rated by virtue of emissions or age).

I got in this discussion last night when I was ranting at the BBC Red Button News article that has "Road Tax" as it's title. My wife, after listening politely for a few minutes said:

"You make sense, but while the legally need to pay VED to use your car on the road, it will also be seen as a road tax"

Indeed, I thought. It's a bloody good point.

Ha, lovely cross-posting there!

 

[adds21]

I don't think it would make a whole lot of difference if the term "Road Tax" was never used again. The type of people who say "You don't pay road tax, you shouldn't be on the roads" aren't the type of people who are going to sit down and think about it, no matter what it's called.

If it wasn't "road tax", it would be "you don't have an MOT", or "you should be on the cycle path", or simply (and probably most honestly in their minds) "you shouldn't be in my way".

If anyone tells me I don't pay "Road tax", I simply reply "Yeah, good isn't it!". Life's too short.

 

[downfader]

I don't think it would make a whole lot of difference if the term "Road Tax" was never used again. The type of people who say "You don't pay road tax, you shouldn't be on the roads" aren't the type of people who are going to sit down and think about it, no matter what it's called.

If it wasn't "road tax", it would be "you don't have an MOT", or "you should be on the cycle path", or simply (and probably most honestly in their minds) "you shouldn't be in my way".

If anyone tells me I don't pay "Road tax", I simply reply "Yeah, good isn't it!". Life's too short.

Whilst I agree this doesnt mean we cant whack these myths one nadd at a time.

 

[Matthew_T]

If anyone tells me I don't pay "Road tax", I simply reply "Yeah, good isn't it!". Life's too short.

I would shout "Thanks for reminding me" or "Keep telling yourself that".