I thought the hubs cost nearly as much as that. I suppose the all enclosed chain would at last give one significant advantage to the rider who couldn't be bothered with wiping the chain when it got wet. But it's till going to be expensice, heavy, inefficient and impossible to replace if you damage a wheel on tour.Davidc said:Looks interesting but I think I could do better with nearly £3k. If the price came down to less than £1500 I'd take a look, with Rohloff transmission it won't come much below that.