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2154260 said:
Hmm, so me saying 'I THINK way fewer drivers drive badly than cyclists cycle badly.' equates to a 'firm opinion'? Try not to misrepresent me if you can Adrian, thank you.
I've been very clear that this is only my opinion based on my own experience. I was merely stating an interest in some nearly impossible to gather statistics on this.
People here appear to be stating that everyone is as bad as each other, and some saying motorists are way worse. This is something that I don't recognise from my personal experience and I'm curious to understand why others think differently.
2154031 said:
But motorists do not, as a group, attempt to claim the high moral ground. A significant number of cyclists do absolutely attempt to claim the high moral ground - you included it would appear from your posts here.
Anyone claiming the high moral ground put upon themselves a higher duty to behave responsibly.
Stand by the crossing opposite Kennington Tube for 10 minutes and I guarantee you'll see a much much larger % of cyclists RLJ than you will motorists doing the same.
2154041 said:
I chose to drive today, i drove an elderly patient to a hospice (something i do every week) without volunteer transport the hospice day service could not function. Your "two wheels good, four wheels bad " stance is just too ridiculous for words
I didn't say you wouldn't and I am not going to defend it. My point was that cyclists are no worse than motorists in breaking the law and public opinion disproportionately favours the motorist. Mostly because motorists don't perceive their own actions as anti-social and they hugely outnumber cyclists in the make-up of public opinion.
The perception is massively unbalanced.
Sorry, I didn't mean to seem narky...
We all get a bit over-defensive on this.
I have divided opinions when there is a blitz on cyclists. On the one hand I'm irritated at being blamed for what others cyclists do, but I also get pissed of when I see law resources used to crack down on cyclists when I get routinely buzzed by close overtakes, and ignored when I complain.
Don't be disheartened by being ignored with complaints, it's worth pursuing. I complained about a van driver who drove through 2 red lights whilst on his phone, I had the incident on camera and contacted the company AND RoadSafe London. Both the company and the Met have got back to me and told me they've issued the driver with written warnings and that he'll be in it up to his neck if he does anything like it again (not in so many words
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Don't be disheartened by being ignored with complaints, it's worth pursuing. I complained about a van driver who drove through 2 red lights whilst on his phone, I had the incident on camera and contacted the company AND RoadSafe London. Both the company and the Met have got back to me and told me they've issued the driver with written warnings and that he'll be in it up to his neck if he does anything like it again (not in so many words
I know it's difficult to do anything substantial in terms of prosecution but those type of words from authorities and employers always sound like [monty python life of brian esque] "he's been a very naughty boy". Just words that don't resonate too loudly with me i'm afraid.
I dunno, if I got a letter from the Met telling me 'one more strike and you're out', I'd be incentivised to toe the line from there on in, or maybe I just scare easily.
I guarantee that van driver never dreamed he'd be reported let alone be captured on camera and put on YouTube
Funny thing was, I saw his van parked up a couple of days later so I'm guessing he drives a similar area quite regularly so I'll be keeping an eye out for any future problems....