Saddened by ninja

[400bhp]

Sorry but what I wrote was plainly accessible English.

No, in my eyes it wasn't. It was veiled in some attempt at a patronising retort which I find the majority of your posts to be that way inclined.

 

[Davidsw8]

Me too, were there anything further worth saying on the subject but there isn't. To recap, unlit cyclists are silly boys and girls but bizarrely under-represented in accident stats so perhaps less endangered than one might imagine at first thought. They may or may not reflect badly on the rest of us but if they do, we all more than counterbalance it by the good we do as we go about our daily cycling.

OK?

That's fabulous Adrian, cheers

I guess when one finds a thread to be done with, one moves on to sommat else even if others still want to continue to discuss the original OP...

 

[Dilbert]

Me too, were there anything further worth saying on the subject but there isn't. To recap, unlit cyclists are silly boys and girls but bizarrely under-represented in accident stats so perhaps less endangered than one might imagine at first thought. They may or may not reflect badly on the rest of us but if they do, we all more than counterbalance it by the good we do as we go about our daily cycling.

OK?

Please share with us how you think what we do counteracts the negative impression of cyclists created by Ninjas in the population at large, because frankly I think the general population's views of cyclists is formed almost entirely by Ninjas, RLJ's and Pavement cyclists. IMHO law abiding cyclists are at best a slight hinerance or at worst irrelevent to other road users, I don't imagine many drivers going round going "wow look another well ridden bike". Same way comment on here focuses on bad driving when there is lots of good driving about in the grand scheme of things.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

Sure cyclists can use lights to make it easier but cars do have lights with which their drivers can see stuff so what is the problem?

I suspect an element of trolling rather than this question really being as daft as it sounds; but to nibble away whilst waiting for my phone sync to finish; I did recognise that cars have lights in the very first words of my reply. However, bike lights are generally visible blinking or a bit wobbly far in advance of when the car beam picks the person or high viz up (I'm a fan of high viz too, in addition to lights) giving said car driver even more warning than simply relying on their own light source & reactions to ninja cyclist being a last minute surprise to them, very very last minute if the car is going at some speed.

I can't understand, even as a devils advocate/trolling question, why responsible cyclists wouldn't want to give drivers every possible assistance to be aware of our presence as early as possible.
Also with negative comment on victims in no-helmet or headphones-present cases & as per Wiggins post olympic 'helmetgate' comments, if there is a coming together outside of broad daylight and the cyclist dosen't have lights, what chance there being any other 'verdict' than cyclists fault, regardless of other factors that may be relevant.

 

[HLaB]

How many ninjas do you actually hear about getting mowed down by cars? None.
How many 'proper' cyclists do you hear about getting mowed down by cars? Loads.

Ninjas seem to have an invincibility cloak surrounding them. Oh yes, it's called the pavement.

A colleague of mine was looking at some accident stats of a mini rbt, the majority of reported bike accidents were ninja's