Harv
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Thought this was interesting
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/29/5760386/gps-anti-bike-theft-program-san-francisco
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/29/5760386/gps-anti-bike-theft-program-san-francisco
San Francisco is baiting thieves with GPS-ready bikes
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TissoT
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This has been done in the UK Also.... When it went to court and the judge saw the evidence she/he let the Thieves off !
Interesting read though ..
Interesting read though ..
Shut Up Legs
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So thieves get a free GPS transponder bundled in with every bike they steal? How considerate of San Franciso.
Learnincurve
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I got terribly cross with another headline to do with that story "Do S.F.'s "bait bikes" stop thieves or entrap poor?" http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2014/05/28/do-s-f-s-bait-bikes-stop-thieves-or-entrap-poor/
Exactly who do they think rides a lot of these bikes anyway? Bike crime effects everyone, including the poor. Many people use bikes because they can't afford a car and these are the people who also can't afford insurance or an expensive lock. A junkie isn't going to care that the bike will only get them £20, it's £20 for 10 seconds work breaking a lock that may as well not be there. The fact is that no matter how much money you do or don't have you still want to see proper lockable bike lockers installed in your town, preferably with CCTV cameras trained on them.
So yes I like this, I like the fact that even though this is probably a very small team they actually really care https://twitter.com/SFPDBikeTheft best tweet of them all, and it's worth scrolling down though the rest of them for is the one on may 14th where they ask if they can hide in the garage of someone's multi-unit, for those who don't know what they are they are basically the same design as when they convert old factories or warehouses into flats and you have the underground parking.
edit: These bait bikes are not just left there by the way, the police are round the corner in a car waiting for them to be nicked and under US law that isn't entrapment because there are warning stickers and signs everywhere saying bait bikes are being used.
Exactly who do they think rides a lot of these bikes anyway? Bike crime effects everyone, including the poor. Many people use bikes because they can't afford a car and these are the people who also can't afford insurance or an expensive lock. A junkie isn't going to care that the bike will only get them £20, it's £20 for 10 seconds work breaking a lock that may as well not be there. The fact is that no matter how much money you do or don't have you still want to see proper lockable bike lockers installed in your town, preferably with CCTV cameras trained on them.
So yes I like this, I like the fact that even though this is probably a very small team they actually really care https://twitter.com/SFPDBikeTheft best tweet of them all, and it's worth scrolling down though the rest of them for is the one on may 14th where they ask if they can hide in the garage of someone's multi-unit, for those who don't know what they are they are basically the same design as when they convert old factories or warehouses into flats and you have the underground parking.
edit: These bait bikes are not just left there by the way, the police are round the corner in a car waiting for them to be nicked and under US law that isn't entrapment because there are warning stickers and signs everywhere saying bait bikes are being used.
glenn forger
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What the SFPD took from bike thieves.
Gravity Aided
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Nice to see a police force taking bike theft seriously. Could be a good model for many other police departments. I've a friend who had his bike stolen from the library bike rack. He said something to the security guard who said that yes, they have a lot of that going on around there. Around there, (e.g.-the library) is across a parking lot from the police station.
Leaway2
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On what grounds?
Edit: just found this
http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/judge...s-bicycle-theft-1.996579?referrerPath=2.1688#
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Gravity Aided
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It would require some police work that would defend and benefit the poor and disadvantaged. Highly unlikely.
Learnincurve
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On what grounds?
Edit: just found this
http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/judge...s-bicycle-theft-1.996579?referrerPath=2.1688#
What a horrible judge. I yes the police are partly at fault for not putting a lock on it, that way he couldn't have said they were tempting people who would not have committed a crime otherwise, but accusing them of wasting time by actually trying to catch bike thieves is outrageous.
glasgowcyclist
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TissoT
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Sorry I can not comment or discuss anything about this ..
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glasgowcyclist
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glenn forger
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Read the article.
glasgowcyclist
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I've read it. I was indicating my puzzlement as to why tissot had quoted my post but not added any comment of his own.
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