School run mums (and dads)

[User482]

Not all men in work have the luxury of doing flexi-time

Nor do all women. What's your point?

 

[Linford]

Most working mothers I know get taken on with part time hours which are worked around the kids and childcare. Employers can and will bend the rules to get the right person. It is generally accepted that a mother will carry this burden, but smaller private firms won't be so flexible where the men are concerned.....not wanting all the other men working there to see favouritism amongst the ranks

 

[Bollo]

Yes, but salary isn't a reliable guide to ability to drop off one's child at the school gates. Plenty of mothers and fathers both work full time...

And plenty more dads work full time than mums - because actual and potential opportunities and earnings are greater. School hours -start and end - are not compatible with most full time jobs. You should really take a look at that link. Fnaar's point also stands that 'traditional' roles also play a part. Ultimately that's the choice each family makes.

Would we see gender-specific criticisms? I doubt it very much.

I too have enjoyed all those threads about White Van Person.

Whilst I share the frustration of (and have been a victim of) poor driving on the school run, there's an unpleasant, misogynistic tone running through this thread.

Yep - there are posts in this and other recent threads that I don't like overmuch. I'm afraid my own (off topic) post about 'school gate mum' is based on personal experience that seems to have been shared by others.

 

[User482]

And plenty more dads work full time than mums - because actual and potential opportunities and earnings are greater. School hours -start and end - are not compatible with most full time jobs. You should really take a look at that link. Fnaar's point also stands that 'traditional' roles also play a part. Ultimately that's the choice each family makes.

I'm aware of the imbalance. Regardless, there is still a significant minority of dads doing the school run, and our local schools have made great strides to be more compatible with work through after school and breakfast clubs.

I too have enjoyed all those threads about White Van Person.

Doesn't even rhyme...

Yep - there are posts in this and other recent threads that I don't like overmuch. I'm afraid my own (off topic) post about 'school gate mum' is based on personal experience that seems to have been shared by others.

As I've already acknowledged, mine too. But I don't think that any problems I've experienced are due to the gender of the parent...

 

[User482]

Most working mothers I know get taken on with part time hours which are worked around the kids and childcare. Employers can and will bend the rules to get the right person. It is generally accepted that a mother will carry this burden, but smaller private firms won't be so flexible where the men are concerned.....not wanting all the other men working there to see favouritism amongst the ranks

Err yes, that was my point.

 

[Linford]

Would we see gender-specific criticisms? I doubt it very much. Whilst I share the frustration of (and have been a victim of) poor driving on the school run, there's an unpleasant, misogynistic tone running through this thread.

Very PeeCee of you User482. The thread is about people dropping their kids off at school. The reality is that 90+% of them are going to be the person with the primary caring role. If that is you, then you are in the minority....this is how things work in the real world.

 

[Bollo]

Most working mothers I know get taken on with part time hours which are worked around the kids and childcare. Employers can and will bend the rules to get the right person.

And working fathers - like me. I work a flexible 30 hour week so I'm there at the start and the end of the school day. Although attitudes are changing and the workplace is becoming more flexible (for highly skilled or experienced employees at least), more often than not it makes more economic sense for the mum to take the career hit than the man. In our case, it wasn't. I still get raised eyebrows when I tell people I work part time while Mrs Dr Bollo is the main wage earner. Ironically, more often raised my mums (the dads just think I've got it sorted )

 

[Linford]

Err yes, that was my point.

You mean that we actually share the same opiniopn on something ????

My O/H stopped work for 7 years to bring our kids up to the point where they started infants school. She has never worked full time since.
Work to live, not live to work..

 

[Linford]

And working fathers - like me. I work a flexible 30 hour week so I'm there at the start and the end of the school day. Although attitudes are changing and the workplace is becoming more flexible (for highly skilled or experienced employees at least), more often than not it makes more economic sense for the mum to take the career hit than the man. In our case, it wasn't. I still get raised eyebrows when I tell people I work part time while Mrs Dr Bollo is the main wage earner. Ironically, more often raised my mums (the dads just think I've got it sorted )

If your O/H is a Dr, I'm not at all surprised that you made that call.

 

[User482]

Very PeeCee of you User482. The thread is about people dropping their kids off at school. The reality is that 90+% of them are going to be the person with the primary caring role. If that is you, then you are in the minority....this is how things work in the real world.

I prefer not to criticise people on the basis of their gender.

You mean that we actually share the same opiniopn on something ????

My O/H stopped work for 7 years to bring our kids up to the point where they started infants school. She has never worked full time since.
Work to live, not live to work..

I suspect the point I was making went over your head.

 

[Linford]

I prefer not to criticise people on the basis of their gender.


I suspect the point I was making went over your head.

This person cut me up today...can'rt believe how close they got to me....couldn't describe them though as I don't want people to think I notice these things.....

 

[User482]

This person cut me up today...can'rt believe how close they got to me....couldn't describe them though as I don't want people to think I notice these things.....

You can't describe someone without making derogatory remarks related to their gender? You must have an exceptionally limited vocabulary.

 

[Linford]

You can't describe someone without making derogatory remarks related to their gender? You must have an exceptionally limited vocabulary.

You mean 'a young woman deliberately cut me up in her car today, and then showed me the middle finger when I let her know I wasn't happy she did it on purpose'...that sort ofthing ?

 

[Sandra6]

Very PeeCee of you User482. The thread is about people dropping their kids off at school. .

Precisely, and if you read the thread title @User482 it says (and dads) -it just so happened the incidents I referred to involved women, they may not have been the mothers for all I know, I didn't stop to ask.

 

[Fnaar]

Fnaar's point also stands

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