Cable outers almost never come with shifters. Sometimes they do include inners though.The bike its going on is a Genesis Day One with horizontal dropouts. Ive seen these shifting kits that connect on the outer hub body to facilitate shifting, but there seems to be several almost identical types, most include anti rotation tabs and capped bolts for the axle
Also there is a concertina rubber boot for the cable, do i specifically need this or just an outer cable cover with aluminium ferrule?
I cant find a part number for the cable outer, or does it come with rapid fire shifter?
Im just about to order my geared hub, but are getting a little confused with what does or doesnt come with the hub.
I want to use a rapid fire flat bar shifter, 20t gear.
What else do I need to make it work, cables external mech etc?
You'll need this small parts set for horizontal dropouts : https://www.bike-discount.de/en/buy...set-sm-s7000-8-for-horizontal-dropouts-621573
You'll see also on the same page (frequently bought together) the other items you need: shifter, cable and outer casing holder.
This pdf shows how to put it all together and the tools required: https://si.shimano.com/pdfs/dm/DM-SG0004-02-ENG.pdf
Many thanks for the links, alot clearer now
One more question, I've heard its prudent to add either ATF or gear oil from the non drive side, about 25-40mil to provide better lubrication of the inner workings.
Is this correct for the SG-S7001-8 hub?
Many thanks for the links, alot clearer now
One more question, I've heard its prudent to add either ATF or gear oil from the non drive side, about 25-40mil to provide better lubrication of the inner workings.
Is this correct for the SG-S7001-8 hub?
No, don't do this. Besides, what do you mean "from the non drive side" Do you mean from the left? Even so, it is unclear
Alfine 8 are filled with grease but maintenance operation is an oil dip.
You disassemble and remove the innards, dip them in a jar of special gear oil and reassemble. If you can regrease a std hub then this is similar level of difficulty.
Many Alfine users (inc me) use cheap standard Automatic Transmission Fluid instead of £50/ litre stuff.
I would recommend oil dip after a few months of use then annually.
For -5c and below, oil dip prevents the gears freezing in place overnight which takes about 20 mins pedalling at 0c to work up the heat to change gear.
Alifine 11 has an oil change port.
To be fair, there's a lot of fairly sound-looking opinion out there that the official service instructions and recommended oil for Alfines are both expensive and inadequate for daily use in our salty wet road conditions, most graphically http://www.rideyourbike.com/shimanoIGH.shtml - however, doing anything unofficial will probably void any warranty so I'd stick to the official if I'd got a warranty (I didn't, so I switched my Nexus 3 to semi-fluid grease without further problems)Nevertheless, don't follow remedies from the internet. Your hub will come with service instructions and recommended oil.
It is pretty simple. Do an early oil change after however many miles Shimano specifies. Then, do them at the given intervals using the recommended oil.
It is simple, albeit messy.
To be fair, there's a lot of fairly sound-looking opinion out there that the official service instructions and recommended oil for Alfines are both expensive and inadequate for daily use in our salty wet road conditions, most graphically http://www.rideyourbike.com/shimanoIGH.shtml - however, doing anything unofficial will probably void any warranty so I'd stick to the official if I'd got a warranty (I didn't, so I switched my Nexus 3 to semi-fluid grease without further problems)