Shoot the rioters!!!

[chillyuk]

The question could have been split into two separate questions:

1. Do you think the police should shoot all rioters?


2. Do you think the police should be entitled to open fire as a last resort to stop EDL rioters from firebombing an asylum seekers hostel?

When and where did the EDL firebomb an asylum seekers hostel. Seems to me that the asylum seekers do a pretty good job of setting fire to their own accomodation themselves without any help from the EDL.

 

[Red Light]

I can imagine these seens of riots being the norm in 20 years

They've been the norm for centuries already

St Scholastica Day riot, 1355
Evil May Day riot, 1517
Bawdy House riot, 1688
Bristol riots, 1793, 1831, 1932, 1980, 1992, 2011
Gordon riot 1780
Littleport riots 1816
.............
Notting Hill riots 1958

 

[accountantpete]

They've been the norm for centuries already

St Scholastica Day riot, 1355
Evil May Day riot, 1517
Bawdy House riot, 1688
Bristol riots, 1793, 1831, 1932, 1980, 1992, 2011
Gordon riot 1780
Littleport riots 1816
.............
Notting Hill riots 1958

Even the Welsh got in on the Act - Rebecca Riots 1839.

(Mind you they mainly used it as an excuse to dress up as women...)

 

[Red Light]

Even the Welsh got in on the Act - Rebecca Riots 1839.

(Mind you they mainly used it as an excuse to dress up as women...)

Yeah, I ran out of steam listing them.

 

[Cycling Naturalist]

When and where did the EDL firebomb an asylum seekers hostel. Seems to me that the asylum seekers do a pretty good job of setting fire to their own accomodation themselves without any help from the EDL.

I was framing a situation which would give the usual suspects cause to think a little.

 

[Angelfishsolo]

I was framing a situation which would give the usual suspects cause to think a little.

Don't get hypothetical - It will confuse too many people

 

[Saddle bum]

The question should be:

"Should the Police use lethal force against rioters"

I think that brings things into perspective. No one is legally allowed to deploy lethal weapons unless their lives are in danger, ie. they are being shot at. There is critisism of Lybia and Syria for shooting its people. Do you want to bring GB into line with them?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

The question should be:

"Should the Police use lethal force against rioters"

I think that brings things into perspective. No one is legally allowed to deploy lethal weapons unless their lives are in danger, ie. they are being shot at. There is critisism of Lybia and Syria for shooting its people. Do you want to bring GB into line with them?

Should that ie actually be an eg or can you life only be put in danger if you are being shot at?

 

[Rapples]

The question should be:

"Should the Police use lethal force against rioters"

I think that brings things into perspective.

To put things in perspective, the question for the purpose it was intended is clear enough. It listed a number of measures and asked should the Police be able to use them in a riot situation.

The problem seems to be the inference by some that those 33% who responded "yes" to firearms being an option, were voting for summary execution and indiscriminate shooting of rioters.

I would be very surprised if there were not armed Police units out during the riots. They do have the power to use firearms if they deem it appropriate. The fact that they didn't speaks volumes for our Police force, and I for one find it highly insulting to them, to imply that if they have firearm use as an option they will abuse it, and fire unneccesarily on rioters, when experience clearly shows they do not.

 

[Red Light]

I for one find it highly insulting to them, to imply that if they have firearm use as an option they will abuse it, and fire unneccesarily on rioters, when experience clearly shows they do not.

Wasn't that what kicked this whole thing off allegedly?

 

[Vapin' Joe]

Wasn't that what kicked this whole thing off allegedly?

They apparently shot a known criminal who was carrying a loaded gun.

Maybe they should have shot the gun out of his hand, like the Lone Ranger used to do?

 

[Dan B]

They apparently shot a known criminal who was carrying a loaded gun.

In a sock, so it's said

 

[Angelfishsolo]

They apparently shot a known criminal who was carrying a loaded gun.

Maybe they should have shot the gun out of his hand, like the Lone Ranger used to do?

Or used a Stephen Seagal unarmed take down technique!

 

[smokeysmoo]

Even the Welsh got in on the Act - Rebecca Riots 1839.

(Mind you they mainly used it as an excuse to dress up as women...)

Come on, the Welsh don't need an excuse

 

[Rapples]

Wasn't that what kicked this whole thing off allegedly?

Was Mark Duggan rioting?