Shoot the rioters!!!

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Angelfishsolo

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How many people could one police officer tasar?

Well if water cannons were used first and the tasar fired at the ground quite a few I guess :biggrin:
 
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Well if water cannons were used first and the tasar fired at the ground quite a few I guess :biggrin:

In that case the taser would be as effective as electricity cables are at electrocuting the birds sat on them. You might shock a bit of water on the ground but nothing else.
 

Angelfishsolo

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In that case the taser would be as effective as electricity cables are at electrocuting the birds sat on them. You might shock a bit of water on the ground but nothing else.

So the soaking wet person would not get a shock even though they are standing in water and grounded?
Birds do not get electrocuted because they are not grounded.
 
The question could have been split into two separate questions:

1. Do you think the police should shoot all rioters?


2. Do you think the police should be entitled to open fire as a last resort to stop EDL rioters from firebombing an asylum seekers hostel?
 
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So the soaking wet person would not get a shock even though they are standing in water and grounded?
Birds do not get electrocuted because they are not grounded.

They would not get a shock. The shock is generated by a high voltage between the two electrodes of the taser being in contact with the body of the target. If you fire it at the wet ground it will just short circuit through the water between the two electrodes on the ground and do nothing for anyone standing even nearby.

And they would not be standing in water and grounded. If you managed to elevate the water to a high voltage they would be just like the birds on the wire unless they connected themselves to the other terminal of the voltage generator somehow.
 

Angelfishsolo

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They would not get a shock. The shock is generated by a high voltage between the two electrodes of the taser being in contact with the body of the target. If you fire it at the wet ground it will just short circuit through the water between the two electrodes on the ground and do nothing for anyone standing even nearby.

And they would not be standing in water and grounded. If you managed to elevate the water to a high voltage they would be just like the birds on the wire unless they connected themselves to the other terminal of the voltage generator somehow.

Fair enough. Then just shoot the bastards instead.
 
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Fair enough. Then just shoot the bastards instead.

Careful now. The police are monitoring social media sites. There could be a knock at your door any minute....;)
 

Angelfishsolo

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They would need to redevelop the tasar into some sort of grenade device, chuck it into the rioters, then in stead of it exploding it would fire out several hundred electrodes in all directions; may be zap about 20-30 in one go, it would give the police an ideal opportunity to get stuck in with their truncheons.

Or an electrically charged net?
 
Perhaps you would like to post that on a forum frequented by veterans and their descendants? My uncle died in 1941 flying a Hurricane. Cannon fodder?

Many apologies but I thought that by posting in The Cafe I could make an obviously outrageous comment and people would see it for what it was - a cynical joke.

For the record my Dad was given 6 weeks training and then shipped off to Burma - "cannon fodder" did apply to some aspects of WWII.
 

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I always take these things with a pinch of salt.

For example, look at the sample size: 2534 people ... out of a population of 66 million, of which let's say 50 million are adults, then the sample size is approximately 0.005% - or 1/200th of 1% of the population!

So what the survey actually says is that 33% of 0.005% of the population think that live ammunition should be used. Furthermore, we don't fully know what demographic that sample represents.

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics ....

If you study these things you'd be amazed at how many zeros you could put on the end of the sample size and get the same result - that is why most surveys usually use about 3000 people selected across all walks of life - it's enough to get a fairly accurate result for the entire population in many cases.

The problem with the rioters and the 33% in favour of live amo is very similar!
Governments don't look past the next election (or two) and wont spend money on anything that we have benefit 20 years+ down the line. It's all about today and economics. That is why we have generations of idiots living in our society and the problem is getting worse - this govenerment (or the next) need to invest heavily to reduce this problem and the results wont be evident for a generation or more. The money still needs to be spent NOW though - but unfortunately it is being cut!

I can imagine these seens of riots being the norm in 20 years
 
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