Rusty Nails
We remember
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- Living in the slow lane
99.9% of deaths last year in the UK were due to murder. Why bother prosecuting?
Sin bin for red light jumping cyclists
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Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
We aren't talking about priorité à driote. We are talking about being able to treat red lights as a give way sign if you are turning left.
They have a similar system (for turning right of course) in many US cities.
The driver/cyclist going through the red is always the one with responsibility to check it is clear to proceed, they never have priority.
Alex321
Guru
- Location
- South Wales
I think you will find that stat is cyclists who admit to occsionally jumping red lights. Unsurprisingly, those who have been killed aren't admitting it
Rusty Nails
We remember
- Location
- Living in the slow lane
I have driven in the US, often using the option to filter right through a red light. Felt a bit strange the first few times but as long as you take care of what those coming through on green might do it's safe.
Punkawallah
Veteran
And, of course 100% of pedestrians injured by motor vehicles and bicycles were . . . pedestrians. Is this the common element, I wonder?
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"They have a similar system (for turning right of course) in many US cities."
In every municipality actually. In addition, many are now allowing turning left across a divided road by having the left turn filter light flashing amber if the road is clear.
Much of cycling and driving safety is down to care and reasonableness. The essence being, it is assumed one does not intend to maim someone - or to be maimed.
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Brandane
Miles cannot be done unless moving!
- Location
- Costa Clyde.
Unfortunately this assumption doesn't apply in the UK.. Seriously, there are a small minority, but not insignificant number of drivers out there, who REALLY do not care!
Punkawallah
Veteran
Ironically, coming in on my ride this morning, a Learner Driver car ignored my right of way on a roundabout. There was only the driver in the vehicle, so I must presume they were the instructor. What chance do learners have?
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- Location
- Glasgow
Oh yes, I have had driving instructors (only one person in the learner's car, who else but the instructor?) with the "must get in front of the cyclist" driving style.
Indeed, what will learners learn from those instructors?
classic33
Leg End Member
Jumped/ran a red light years ago, on the way back into Shipley from Saltaire, and pulled off the road as soon as I could.
Stopped, not that I was going anywhere other than getting out of the way, and asked if I was aware that I'd gone through a red light. Answered "Yes" and explained before he'd a chance to ask me why? Delivered the simple answer of getting out of the way. He asked of what, and I pointed towards the ambulance on blues and two's head our way, and was past us before I finished explaining.
I'd heard the sirens and knew it was closing, but not which way it would go at the time I decided to get off the road. But why hold up a service I've used quite a bit, and they're not one to use the blues and two's for the sake of it. My opinion anyway.
Stopped, not that I was going anywhere other than getting out of the way, and asked if I was aware that I'd gone through a red light. Answered "Yes" and explained before he'd a chance to ask me why? Delivered the simple answer of getting out of the way. He asked of what, and I pointed towards the ambulance on blues and two's head our way, and was past us before I finished explaining.
I'd heard the sirens and knew it was closing, but not which way it would go at the time I decided to get off the road. But why hold up a service I've used quite a bit, and they're not one to use the blues and two's for the sake of it. My opinion anyway.
