Slammin Sam

[Wafer]

In my opinion it is better, so why shouldn't I say it is?

No one asked, it's irrelevant.

 

[Wafer]

Sorry mate but try being more open minded and reading the actual posts

/facepalm

 

[david k]

First, who is we? Next, Cycling has far more financial interest as a sport than Rugby League, and I wouldn't call that a major sport, I'd stick that with minority interest such as Rugby.
In fact, for England, I think outside of Football, most sports are minority, and very localised to the area in which you come from.
the sport needs bums on seats to grow, people won't travel 45 miles down a motorway to an away game, what chance is there of a 200 mile trip?
Not really relevant. Was the private school in Cheshire, Kings College in Macclesfield? They are massive in Union, my friend went there, and played Union. He also plays league with me now.
My school was big into football, and didn't play Rugby at all, omg that hatred!

I wouldn't class league as a major sport and have never claimed such a thing, so not sure what point you're trying to make
Why do you need a 200 mile trip? The majority of fans should come from the local area, so to grow numbers it should be the local fans not away fans you try to encourage, poor business plan if you are basing it on encouraging fans to travel 200 miles every game???
It may have been that school I cannot remember exactly, but not irrelevant at all. Many pro clubs play league to practice and employ league coaches. Playing league in training speeds things up and gives players more touches of the ball, I was in Newport a couple of days ago and one of my colleagues was telling me how much league they do in training. So the absolute refusal to try some league even just in training at the wishes of the players is bizarre and an insight into their mentality

 

[david k]

No one asked, it's irrelevant.

Gee, keyboard warrior or what just after the last word, talk about tit for tat, I was reasonable when I said I must have misunderstood but you keep pushing this agenda, so you do have an issue

You keep saying things are irrelevant, probably because it's easier than addressing them, an easy way to discard anything you cannot justify or don't want to address

 

[david k]

/facepalm

How childish

 

[david k]

I used to go and watch the Broncos at the Valley but then they moved back West. I agree it's a shame.

My wannabe grammar school in Burnley saw RL as working class so we only played RU. I don't count that as hatred though just ignorance of both the game and their students.

I think you are being kind saying its ignorance, but even if my description of hatred is inaccurate and you are right it's ignorance it's proof of a very dated view and of Union and league being split by the class system

 

[rich p]

I think even more nuanced rules would benefit RU immensely. That should go a long way in persuading hovering neutrals, like me, that it's a game worth watching.

 

[david k]

I think even more nuanced rules would benefit RU immensely. That should go a long way in persuading hovering neutrals, like me, that it's a game worth watching.

As a league fan I hope they don't change the rules, if they made it more like league we really would struggle to make an impact.

Like my welsh colleague said, they are delighted English rugby union are a mess, if they got their act together they should and would be the best in the world with the wealth and amount of players they have

 

[rich p]

As a league fan I hope they don't change the rules, if they made it more like league we really would struggle to make an impact.

Like my welsh colleague said, they are delighted English rugby union are a mess, if they got their act together they should and would be the best in the world with the wealth and amount of players they have

Don't get over-excited by my contribution. RL is too often drearily one-dimensional IMHO

 

[david k]

Don't get over-excited by my contribution. RL is too often drearily one-dimensional IMHO

I hear that a lot, and I see why some people think that, but for me those stages in games are the attritional wars that go on, I enjoy watching them play out waiting to see who cracks first, maybe that's because I grew up with it and played it, saying that I played Union as well but a lot lot more league

 

[GrumpyGregry]

It's not easy. Hence I think that really being tough on yellow cards is integral too. Otherwise, like you say, cynical players will just kill the game and accept the penalty. Howsabout a yellow card for every third penalty conceded by a side? It's a bit of a nuclear solution but maybe it's the way. Points scoring matrices show the effect of going down to 14 is really important

I like your idea of some offence between free kick and kickable penalty

YC for repeated infringements is already in the Law. "Skipper, come here! That's three offenses in quick succession/similar offenses. I'm out of options. Speak to your players!" Referee's assessors aren't keen on it being used I'm told.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Sorry mate but you seem very naive, I used to think like you but after traveling and speaking to people in RU areas the snobbery is alive and well. Maybe if you only speak to people in RL land you only see one side of the story.

I fear you are mistaking 'hatred' of your game with 'hatred' of your class. Or your assumed class with the assumption based on your game.

Working class Union clubs get treated in much the same way!

 

[GrumpyGregry]

I hear that a lot, and I see why some people think that, but for me those stages in games are the attritional wars that go on, I enjoy watching them play out waiting to see who cracks first, maybe that's because I grew up with it and played it, saying that I played Union as well but a lot lot more league

And there you have one of the key features of the game.

The team that wins is most often the one that contains the most individuals who prevail in a one-on-one physical and mental battle with their opposite numbers. One by one players crack because of the pressure being applied to them. Three or four crack in the right positions simultaneously and the gaps open up and the backs run riot.

 

[david k]

I fear you are mistaking 'hatred' of your game with 'hatred' of your class. Or your assumed class with the assumption based on your game.

Working class Union clubs get treated in much the same way!

Agree, hence my posts about Union in Wales were it is more working class, so not mistaken but I agree

 

[martint235]

I think you are being kind saying its ignorance, but even if my description of hatred is inaccurate and you are right it's ignorance it's proof of a very dated view and of Union and league being split by the class system

I'll go along with that.