How can there be discussion if you react on what you said, not me?How can there be discussion when I speak from what I actually do from experience and works without fuss? What you found on the Internet is generic, and not written for a specific model or even make of Hollowtech crankset. You are simply wrong if you claim I need more than Allen keys to remove my HT2 cranks. Even the YouTube video your links eventually reach does not suggest hammer and chisel to remove the BB. It says nothing about the BB.
This reminds me of a teenager who has found a book on driving, never having driven, explaining to a police advanced driving instructor what he is doing wrong.
I did NOT claim that YOU need more than Allen keys, I, and ParkTools, said it can needed to have more, which I witnessed in a bike shop, which is mentioned in the ParkTools Howto. See again here: you edited, thus, you are discussing actually with yourself here.
Also, my previous bike had Hollow Technology 2, and its bearings, despite larger, failed, which was a first time on a bike ever.
Also, my current (avatar) bike has had an Octalink period, as a test, and its left crank kept on loosening, indicating a design problem. I Looked It Up On The Internet (something you seem to flag as a BAD THING) and indeed, a design problem.
So your implicit claim that I only know things "from the internet", for what it's worth (nothing) is a lie, a rather careless one, since I posted alot experience with my bikes during the years I was active here.
So (and again) why your General with capital G negative attitude?
You don't have a reason for it and nobody is served anything.
I said that the Hollow Technology Light Religion serves the people that wanna win 1 sec on 1 km (not by better physical condition but by cheating), and/or, want to keep up with a rest, and that's it.
For all others (which is most), its cost/benefit ratio is awful.
Unlike you, I reacted to what is said, not what I selected/edited from it.
You tried to restart this so-called "discussion" twice.
Repeating doesn't make more true or more false.
It('s as simple as that, and you resorted many pages ago already to such forum behaviour.
That's the choice you make, not me, for me, it's just boring page scrolling, which is why I pointed you out your two restart attempts.
But as I see with your post here - to no avail.
