Snapped spindle

[fossyant]

My chainring now runs over 7 years.
If it was "destroyed", it wouldn't have.
Rather the contrary: I upgraded it towards living that much longer.
And later on same for rear cog.
With the "upgrade" costing me a year effort to flip it regularly on its mount, then no further effort.

Having nothing to do, requires nobody, Mister EckyH.
It proved beneficial to stop doing something, in both terms of work and cost.

Also, not "my" dealers, but "anyone's" dealers, only that I became less willing to accept botched jobs and buy whatever they say to buy.

7 years with no teeth, you are taking the wee wee. It's knackered.

 

[Webbo2]

7 years with no teeth, you are taking the wee wee. It's knackered.

Maybe he’s used his dentures as a stop gap.😉

 

[fossyant]

Maybe he’s used his dentures as a stop gap.😉

I'd like not to use my teeth to stop me (actually, I don't want dentures).

I do hope he doesn't own a car. What's the MOT test like in Belgium ?

 

[silva]

There are softer and harder screws and tools available.
And if the chain line is right, then there is very little lateral stress for the sprocket. Which means that the screw heads don't have to take much load to keep the sprocket in place. If tightened with the right torque and care and screws and tools with sufficient quality, then the probability to round the screw heads is marginal.

The OP wrote about the snapped spindle of his bike and now the story is about a former cog...
I didn't throw this different story in the thread.

I'm teetotal for many years.

E.

The mounting bolts are also from Velosolo:
https://www.velosolo.co.uk/shopdisc.html

M5 Grade 12.9 High-tensile Steel Hex Head Cog/Disc Bolts

And Mister EckyH, it's not about "lateral stress" but about tensioning/untensioning bolts force, if heads break off then the hub is lost, due to the steel threaded part sitting stuck in the alu of the hub's IS brake disc.

You say you didn't throw that story here, but it's you that throw the discussion about it.
Same for my mentioning of dealer using hammer and chisel to get the driveside part of HollowTech2 out, some people here even started talking about me on another forum. Go figure haha.
I made here some statements about Shimano's Hollow Technology 2, with the Light Religion ment to cheat in racing as its motivation, and some users here started to talk about whatever related to me, instead of relevant arguments.
That's not my problem. My initial statement was that a human leg powered axle should NEVER break. That risk should be zero. Because all what is needed is to take into account the max force a human leg can deliver, put a reserve, and done.
But in order to cheat in competition, by decreasing weight of bicycle, the latters industry started to cut material (and thus weight), going therein as far as risking axle and crank breaks.
If it was for competition / to win a sec on a mile / to keep up with a rest, fine, one with plenty bucks can just throw away a bike after its single ride as to not risk fatigue breaks.
But making a standard of it, for everybody, I say no. For all but those racers, the weight "saved" is not worth the risk/cost.

 

[silva]

Maybe he’s used his dentures as a stop gap.😉

The chainring on my avatar bike is a 47T whoms in total 12 of its teeth broke off over the years, and it remained like that, since 3 years.
That's not a stop gap, that's a stop wear.

 

[Paulus]

I've been following this thread from day one.
I am now losing the will to live.
What with a snapped/cracked Hollowtech axle, chain rings with teeth missing, bike mechanics that can't be trusted, hammers and chisels used as normal bike tools.
28 pages of opinions, 410 replies, and i still really don't know what is going on.

 

[classic33]

I've been following this thread from day one.
I am now losing the will to live.
What with a snapped/cracked Hollowtech axle, chain rings with teeth missing, bike mechanics that can't be trusted, hammers and chisels used as normal bike tools.
28 pages of opinions, 410 replies, and i still really don't know what is going on.

You're forgetting the heavy credit/debit cards that aren't carried.

 

[Paulus]

You're forgetting the heavy credit/debit cards that aren't carried.

My bad.😟

 

[fossyant]

The chainring on my avatar bike is a 47T whoms in total 12 of its teeth broke off over the years, and it remained like that, since 3 years.
That's not a stop gap, that's a stop wear.

But that's your choice, but you don't seem to accept most people wouldn't do that. I also suspect you aren't chucking that bike down a mountain, or riding quickly, so you will get away with bad maintenance, and it will just unship the chain. Do that when climbing or descending and it could be a disaster. But, hey ho, if just trundling about then fine.

Do you own a car, I so hope you don't, for the sake of people living near you ?

 

[Ajax Bay]

My other lesson learned, don't anyone let Silva near your bikes, he will destroy them. Also don't go to any of his 'dealers'.

Also, not "my" dealers, but "anyone's" dealers, only that I became less willing to accept botched jobs and buy whatever they say to buy.

The dealers that you buy your bikes from are (subtly) not the 'dealers' to whom @fossyant refers.
Edit: For those for whom EisFL post #357 refers.

 

[EckyH]

a human leg powered axle should NEVER break. That risk should be zero. Because all what is needed is to take into account the max force a human leg can deliver, put a reserve, and done.

That's wrong.

E.

 

[Keezx]

CUT

I do hope he doesn't own a car. What's the MOT test like in Belgium ?

The Belgian car assessment (called "autokeuring") is pretty strictly (like the German TUV) but fortunately Silva gave up cars relatively long ago as far as I know (quite understandable for someone who fights wars even with bike parts)

Conflicts with car workshops can kill mentally sane people...

 

[roubaixtuesday]

28 pages of opinions, 410 replies, and i still really don't know what is going on.

You say that as if it's a bad thing!

 

[roubaixtuesday]

My initial statement was that a human leg powered axle should NEVER break. That risk should be zero. Because all what is needed is to take into account the max force a human leg can deliver, put a reserve, and done

I think we established upthread @Ajax Bay that the margin ("reserve" as you put it) is actually higher for Hollowtech than for square taper.

So, you think Hollowtech is less prone to breakage then?

 

[Ajax Bay]

I think we established upthread @Ajax Bay that . . .
So, you think Hollowtech is less prone to breakage then?

Not me, guv. Bacon - sure; lettuce - maybe; but don't make me the tomato.
"So" have you not been paying attention to what @silva thinks? Perlease!