Keezx
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Actually , millions of Dutch people, (and even more Belgiums ) like it...my wife is addicted to this stuff...(I'm not)
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Actually , millions of Dutch people, (and even more Belgiums ) like it...my wife is addicted to this stuff...(I'm not)
EckyH
It wasn't me!
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Don't get me started with the Germans.
"Currywurst, Pommes, Mayo" (curried sausage, frites and mayonnaise) is the classic at snack stands here.
And now for something completely different:
From the last two pages.
That insults even my sparse intelligence.
E.
Drago
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You just cant help yourself!
Yes that's what I said!
If it had been Manuel in Fawlty Towers,
Or if bikini women were on the scene, Benny Hill,
I'd say, OK People of the United Kingdom, we have an Explanation.
But this is Shimano.
From Japan.
The country of Hara-Kiri and Kamikaze in the Name of Honor and Pride.
Who would expect them sacrifying 29% torsion resistence on HollowTech2 Design Day, to lose a further 20 grammes?
According to https://discerningcyclist.com/how-much-do-bikes-weigh/
An average bicycle, excluding the bogus lookalike E-bikes, weights bare bone 10.15 kg.
20 grammes is 0.2% of that - that 29% better torsion resistence would make it 10.17 kg.
That's futile - Shimano should consult a medic - I'm sure the diagnosis will be anorexia.
I would have expected roubaixtuesday to Sue Shimano for his Left Leg now Lagging 3 km training to his Right Leg. And it could have been much worser than that.
But he didn't.
Instead, he went on his knees to the direction of the Land of the Rising Sun and said "Thank You"...
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roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
It stops being funny when ethnic stereotypes are invoked I think. Stick to insulting your own ethnicity would be my advice, as a proud smoggie.
And her big brother Stu?
Drago
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Are manufacturers reducing the material in gussets to save mass, and why aren't we seeing a rise in spontaneous gusset failures?
And why no trend to hollow gussets? Crotchless would save a to of weight while giving Silva something to attach a 420 motorbike chain to.
And why no trend to hollow gussets? Crotchless would save a to of weight while giving Silva something to attach a 420 motorbike chain to.
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https://filmfolly.com/review/fawlty-towers-the-cult-series-that-has-never-aged
... not banned.
and
https://bennyhill.co.uk/
... not banned.
So your "I think", is thought wrong.
Also, it's contradictional:
- as a Brit to complain about British Television fun,
while on the other hand,
- as a Brit to NOT complain about Shimano's anorexia in Japan, leading to misery upto injury along the road, with, as you reported yourself here, you having Luck.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
As you're doubling down on this, I've no wish to continue here any more.
It's not big or clever to sterotype the Japanese.
A shame to leave such an entertaining interaction this way, but there we are.
Drago
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Let us pray that 420 chains are never banned. Imagine the moaning!
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
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Our young (cough) Silva must be about the only person in Belgium that doesn't like/ride Shimano. Now who is the odd one out. And a mate of mine lives out there and every bike I've seen in his photo's are Shimano equipped.
What's your thoughts on SRAM and Campag hollow axels ? Anyway your chips and mayo are yuk.
What's your thoughts on SRAM and Campag hollow axels ? Anyway your chips and mayo are yuk.
Drago
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They cant get hollow axles in Belgium due to EU quota rules on hollow spaces.
classic33
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Ming the Merciless
There is no mercy
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Wait till he finds out his bicycle frame is hollow tech
brommieinkorea
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Sitting on the loo looking for something entertaining. Wow. The best thing here is that Silva has been yanking everybody's chain, rather than run a motorcycle chain on a bicycle. Not sure what set him off when he saw Shimano, but it was a good way to practice his English too.
What is that "this" I would have "doubling down"?
I saw a contradiction, and made it Captain Obvious with an analogy, because Captain Obvious Rules Them All in Making Things Clear.
This is a thread of 5-6 years ago, the case was a Snap after 3 years Service:
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/shimano-105-crank-axle-failure.267532/page-2
The picture there:
https://www.cyclechat.net/attachments/485722/
... where Vapin' Joe Vaped the Thought I Thought after reading your nowadays, repeating story
... and after putting figures on it (those online calculators), 20 grammes more (=reducing the weight reduction (=the "win" of the HollowTech2) towards square taper from 130 to 110 grammes) wins 29% better resistence to such torsion break, I'd frankly put how can anyone not agree?
20 grammes is within credit card weight range, and it buys a safety reserve of 29%.
The HollowTech2 design choices may be acceptable for competition racing in a case of replacing cranksets after every race, season, whatever within a couple years, because it can be claimed there that technology is a part of the competition, next to sport/fitness, the "best" being based on the two.
But outside that niche part of the bicycle users, I consider it quite Insane in the Brain to proclamate the design as a Standard for Everyone, let alone consequence of it failing is a recipe for injury.
The same can be said about their crank construction - instead of massive material, a construction of 2 U shaped cross sections leaving a hollow, together resulting in a part of that 130 grammes "gain" relative to square taper. It ALSO proved as failing, and in such numbers that it ended up forcing Shimano to do "something", despite far beyond warranty, as to avoid accumulated lawsuit costs that could end up far more costly than a recall, which has in itself a bogus factor, since inspection and seeing nothing guarantees nothing about tomorrow and any day beyond, proven by peoples stories, as I already mentioned here.
That implies a failure that propagates far enough without seeing anything externally. That, is the clear danger, THE recipe for disaster, since even people that bother checking get fooled into further using it.
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