So do WE feel safer on the so called dutch roundabouts?

[dutchguylivingintheuk]

Close to me they made two off these things councilors all get very excited about them and surely they have advantages, the cycle path going round makes it virtually impossible to be inside the death corner(word for word translated that can't seem to come up with the uk term atm) of a van or truck.
The other advantage is that the way the road crossing for cycles has been arranged means that's is easyer to look aside as you're facing the road strait, so you don't have to almost look behind to see traffic upcoming. the original dutch idea behind it is also that as a car driver it's easy-er to adjust your speed in such a way that you don't or almost don't have to brake but still can give way to a passing cycle. But i don't think that memo really has gotten trough in the uk sadly.

So with a little history and idea's behind them out of the way, the core point of the question, do we as cyclist/persons on a bicycle/whatever term suits best actually feel safer in the waythey are implented in the uk?
In most cases that i have seen so far, they way they are built is good, there are better examples in the Netherlands, but still design wise it's still ok, also taking into account whilst building things retrospectively you might not always have the space.

Still i usually don't feel much safer because drivers don't known how to use them, so they use it like a kart track, still a bit better i gues because better visibility but still.
So how do others thing about this?

 

[Psamathe]

I certainly feel safer cycling round roundabouts in NL than I do those in the UK but it's impossible for me to say how much of that is the design vs how much the very different attitudes of dutch drivers ... and then we get into consideration given to cyclists and "assumed liability".

That said and without evidence it does seem to me that road markings (incl. roundabouts) for cycle lanes in NL are massively more obvious to drivers than those used in the UK. UK we might even get a pot of white paint used sparingly close to the gutter ...

Ian

 

[markemark]

Perfectly good mini roundabout on my commute replaced with some 4 way junction that nobody, including me, knows how to properly navigate. Everyone slowed for a while during the initial confusion. Now the cars just push in through. The mini roundabout was so much better. Acetone knew where they stood. And priority was based on normal roundabout rules.

I don’t like these new systems. Cars just push on through.

 

[Pat "5mph"]

nside the death corner(word for word translated that can't seem to come up with the uk term atm) of a van or truck.

It's called blind spot.

I don’t like these new systems. Cars just push on through.

I tend to agree.
Cars push through even on speed bumps or dead end streets, just because some car drivers cannot possibly wait a few second, they must go in front of the cyclist.