So, what did he bring you then?

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yenrod

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Young Un said:
If you were to add it up at retail, its 2400, but I work in a bike shop, so I'm paying no where near that :sad::biggrin: the 1200 will cover most of it, as it should hopefully come in around 1300!

So, you are getting a plastic frame then - all the best if it breaks......
 

blazed

220lb+
Plastic shmastic.
 

Young Un

New Member
Location
Worcestershire
yenrod said:
So, you are getting a plastic frame then - all the best if it breaks......

Yup, plastic fantastic! And don't worry it won't break. I've been working in a bike shop for three months now, that specialises in top end road bikes, meaning theres lots of plastic aroung, and the only frame I've seen come in thats failed was a Bianchi, made of ALLUMINIUM! and by failed, I mean a 3 inch by 5 inch section of the downtube had collapsed!
 

yenrod

Guest
Yeah and Ive also seen a carbon made my giant industries with collapsed seatstays...

All the best...steel is the real deal ! :sad:
 

Young Un

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Location
Worcestershire
yenrod said:
Yeah and Ive also seen a carbon made my giant industries with collapsed seatstays...

All the best...steel is the real deal ! :sad:

So you've seen carbon fail, I've seen alu frames fail, so it doesn't really matter what you use, it could still fail?
 

yenrod

Guest
Young Un said:
So you've seen carbon fail, I've seen alu frames fail, so it doesn't really matter what you use, it could still fail?

Once carbon snaps/fails then its pretty much curtains..not so with STEEL !
 

Young Un

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Location
Worcestershire
yenrod said:
Once carbon snaps/fails then its pretty much curtains..not so with STEEL !

I can't be bothered to argue, and no, you haven't won, it's christmas so not in the spirit to keep proving myself correct. Merry christmas Yenners, I hope your steel bike fails :sad:
 

Young Un

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Location
Worcestershire
Merry Christmas by the way :sad:
 

yenrod

Guest
Young Un said:
I can't be bothered to argue, and no, you haven't won, it's christmas so not in the spirit to keep proving myself correct. Merry christmas Yenners, I hope your steel bike fails :biggrin:

How many early cadex's are still around/ridden today :sad:

BTW Giant made them!

Happy chrimbo to you too...but seriously - think twice YoungUn. ! If you've money to throw away feel free to buy if not DON'T !

I hope your frame doesnt snap !

Seriously

http://www.carboncyclerepairs.co.uk/index.php

http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-materials.html

Carbon Fiber

Carbon fiber is an increasingly popular frame material, but it is fundamentally different from metal tubing as a way to construct frames. Because of the fibrous nature of this material, it has a much more pronounced "grain" than metal does. A well-designed carbon fiber frame can have the fabric aligned in such a way as to provide maximum strength in the directions of maximum stress.
Unfortunately, in bicycle applications, carbon fiber is not a fully mature technology, as tubular-construction metal frames are. Bicycles are subjected to a very wide range of different stresses from many different directions. Even with computer modeling, the loads can't be entirely predicted. Carbon fiber has great potential, but contemporary carbon fiber frames have not demonstrated the level of reliability and durability that are desired for heavy-duty touring use. In particular, a weak point tends to be the areas where metal fitments, such as fork ends, bottom bracket shells, headsets, etc connect to the carbon frame. These areas can be weakened by corrosion over time, and lead to failure.

In geometry, there's nothing as strong as a triangle. Diamond-frame bikes consist basically of two triangles. The elegance and simplicity of this design is very hard to improve upon. Billions of diamond-frame bikes have been made from tubing for over a century, and during that time, hundreds of thousands of very smart people have spent billions of hours riding along and thinking about ways to fine-tune the performance of their bikes. The tubular diamond frame has been fine tuned by an evolutionary process to the point where it is very close to perfection, given the basic design and materials. I often commute on a Mead Ranger frame built in 1916. It's a tad heavier than a more modern frame, but its general riding qualities are as nice as any bike I own.

If there is to be any major improvement in frame design, it must come either from a completely different type of construction process, such as carbon fiber, or cast magnesium; or a completely different type of design, such as a recumbent.
 

ianrauk

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In fact that reminds me Young Un, how's it going with your job? You still working for free or they paying you a wage now? How are you finding it? I can imagine you have learnt quite a bit, not only about bikes but retails also.

Young Un said:
If you were to add it up at retail, its 2400, but I work in a bike shop, so I'm paying no where near that :sad::biggrin: the 1200 will cover most of it, as it should hopefully come in around 1300!
 

Plax

Guru
Location
Wales
Mr Plax got me a camcorder & digital photo frame for Chrimbo, it was a surprise as I thought he'd just got me the clothes & smellies I asked for. The camcorder also takes photos, it's fab - I'm off to Guatemala & Belize in Feb so he got it me for the trip. He's a star and I luvs him :sad:.
My sister got me a few t-shirts & shorts for the trip too, along with a handlebar bag.
My dad got me a new cassette and chain and arm warmers (he says "you have £XX tell me what you want").
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
The fat red guy visited and brought loads of pressies yesterday - mostly for the kids. However they couldn't contain themselves and woke us up opening the stockings at 2 am!!!:biggrin: (They are old enough to know better!!!:biggrin:). Me, I've had a cookbook, flowers, smellies and money for a new camera. It was a lovely day yesterday, just us and one large meal ... but the world outside looks weird - seems to have changed from B+W and returned to colour mode overnight.
 

Young Un

New Member
Location
Worcestershire
ianrauk said:
In fact that reminds me Young Un, how's it going with your job? You still working for free or they paying you a wage now? How are you finding it? I can imagine you have learnt quite a bit, not only about bikes but retails also.


It's full on awesome, I can't describe it in any other way. After my weeks work experience they decided to pay me on the saturdays that the other saturday was away racing. They then realised I was an assett to the shop, and so have employed me permanently on Saturdays, and so I now get paid :biggrin: It's a cracking wage for a fifteen year old, I get cracking discounts, and I learn so so much, like you said, not just about bikes, but how a shop works, and what has to be done to keep it working smoothly. My boss is great too; how many bosses choose to pay a 15 year old £40 a day, get hit stock at trade price, and then give a christmas present too you on top of all of that aswell :biggrin:

So, in summary, I love it, I learn, and I get paid (what more could you want!), and thanks to those that gave me advice about asking for work experience etc. Cheers!


Steve
 
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