Sometimes i want to give a cyclist a slapping....

[PK99]

It frustrates me, even saddens me, but it doesn't surprise me any more.
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and not just in a cycling context - i agree whole heartedly

 

[GrasB]

The acknowledgement is all very well but imo it's a nicety that while pleasant to see is unimportant in the grand scheme of things. The lack of it is certainly not something to get frustrated or otherwise wound up about.

 

[gbb]

Some cyclists rally do give us a bad name as seen by the wife yesterday..
Shes on a bus in our locality and he's proceeded through some green TLs....to very very narrowly miss a guy on a roadbike who's gone through on red.
She said it was within inches at perhaps 20 or 30mph

Worse still, he's on a roadbike, wearing a yellow jacket and a helmet same colour as mine.

Next time a bus driver sees me....he's going to think

 

[jonny jeez]

Don't talk arse.

+1 too courtesy is one of our greatest tools, you'll get more benefit from the use of courtesy than from a high-vis jacket or flash computer

 

[John the Monkey]

Thankfully, virtue is its own reward. Bask in the knowledge that you are the better person, innit.

 

[Alien8]

Am I the only one who says to their children when they expect plaudits for doing something rather ordinary: "What do you want? A medal or a certificate?"

So OP - what do you want? A medal or a certificate?

 

[sadjack]

I rather like the saying (and I believe its true) "Manners maketh the man" I suppose in this day and age it should be "Manners makes the person".

Cant help thinking a bit of good old fashioned manners all round would make the roads and the world a nicer place.

Rose tinted goggles fixed firmly in place I shall depart stage left with a friendly wave and "hail fellow well met".... or words to that effect

 

[Cab]

Courtesy... Its a lot to ask

This morning I got to a junction to be followed by a cluster of cyclists behind me, all waiting at a red light. Maybe six of us. The seventh came around all of us, straight through the red light, turned left in front of us.

Lights changed, turned left, caught up with what can best be described as a slow moving peloton of cyclists, looked over shoulder and had space, so went around maybe 20 other cyclists to find a clearish bit of road. Was turning right, at which point I slotted in behind a van turning left in front of me. Narrow one way street, the van wasn't going fast because he soon caught up with the cyclists in front of him. Within moments I had a cyclist on my left, and another sprinted past on my right on the pavement, then tried to swerve back on to the road into the space I was in, which would have required that I shoulder the guy to my left out of the way.

Van eventually turned off left, the guy to my left had a go at out-sprinting me, which is fine but experience tells me that if he tries the guy behind him will too and sooner or later one of them will cut across me with no space... So, I got out of the saddle and outpaced him.

Pelting along Kings Parade now, two bikes came out from a side road nearly taking out the cyclist they come out in front of, making her swing out quickly and brake... I've given her miles of space so I barely have to swerve. Then just before turning off left further on to get to work, while indicating left to turn, have a cretin who has been badly drafting me try to undertake.

Just another regular commute through the middle of Cambridge at five to nine! Anyone who tells you that cyclists are friendly or considerate towards each other is flat out wrong, when you get to a 'critical mass' it only takes two or three to sour the trip for everyone else, i.e. as soon as it is apparent that many cyclists are entirely uncooperative, nearly everyone becomes as bad.

 

[PK99]

So OP - what do you want?

good manners and common courtesy.

What a pity if you teach your children that such things are not important

 

[Rob3rt]

I dont see why people get so wound up over such a small thing, he didnt explicitly thank you, not a big deal. There are hundreds of thousands of complete and utter c*nts out there (and I dont just mean on the road, everywhere you go you will find them), dont let it bother you

 

[Alien8]

good manners and common courtesy.

What a pity if you teach your children that such things are not important

I wasn't talking about the lack of good manners and common courtesy from the cyclist.

I was referring to your apparent infantile need for acknowledgement and subsequent reaction if you don't get it.

 

[jonny jeez]

Courtesy... Its a lot to ask

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Correct, which is why it means so much to those who recieve it.

 

[gbb]

Actually, to stay out of the door zone (which he did) he had to cycle down the centre of the road which has no white line.

common courtesy makes the world a nicer place - I'm surprised there so much of an issue being made of defending the cyclist.

I'm not pk, but i sysmpathise with where you are in this post...
The rant (if thats what it was) was the point...not one i'd get wound up about myself, i'd just drive on and think...'ignorant tw..' and forget it.

But what happens here is a post gets dissected, the (your) point gets lost and you find yourself defending or argueing about irrelevent points. You have to word things very very carefully in here...things get misinterpreted or misread so easily

 

[PK99]

I wasn't talking about the lack of good manners and common courtesy from the cyclist.

I was referring to your apparent infantile need for acknowledgement and subsequent reaction if you don't get it.

next time you are cycling and a motorist fails to give you enough room and forces you into the door zone, reflect that he might have done that last time and found his gesture rudely snubbed by a cyclist, so his attitude to you is coloured by his experience of other cyclists.

If we as cyclists want car drivers to show more consideration then we are duty bound to acknowledge when someone goes out of their way to show consideration.

A nod, a flick of the hand is all it takes. On a human level it makes the world spin a little easier on its axis. On a cycling level it helps break down the Us v them attitude that, sadly, is apparent both among cyclists and drivers.

If you think that is infantile, i feel very sorry for you.

 

[tightwad]

next time you are cycling and a motorist fails to give you enough room and forces you into the door zone, reflect that he might have done that last time and found his gesture rudely snubbed by a cyclist, so his attitude to you is coloured by his experience of other cyclists.

If we as cyclists want car drivers to show more consideration then we are duty bound to acknowledge when someone goes out of their way to show consideration.

A nod, a flick of the hand is all it takes. On a human level it makes the world spin a little easier on its axis. On a cycling level it helps break down the Us v them attitude that, sadly, is apparent both among cyclists and drivers.

If you think that is infantile, i feel very sorry for you.

F**ckwittery in so many ways. It's simple - ask for no quarter and give none. Worrying about consideration, manners etc. leads to indecision and inept riding/driving.