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downfader

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Thinking back to when I was 19 I remember I did actually have a mirror off. Purely unintentionally though as I'd been passing parked cars at the time on my side of the road when a driver in a little van flew straight at me. I'd swerved to avoid him and pop! Off this thing came from a parked car. I left a note apologising and explaining what happened but never heard from the owner of the car.

Had forgotten about that. Nearly 20 years ago.
 
Nothing to do with the size of your bum then? :whistle:
:B)

My bum is of such a size that it must have been an act of immense skill and exquisite judgement, thank you.
 
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GrumpyGregry

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Thank you @GrumpyGregry for starting a thought-provoking thread. Whether you intended to or not, it deals with an issue that has provided me with the backbone to many a story: namely what is the appropriate response to what society considers bad behaviour? (This can range from a two-year old having a tantrum to one ethnic/religious group murdering another.) As is often said, when the good stand by and do nothing, then evil wins, but when, and how, should you respond? In my many years of experience in rough-pub culture (it was my local), sociopaths are not possessed of the skills to learn from the fall-out of their selfish behaviour, so resorting to criminal damage is a risky endeavour at the best of times. My gut feeling is that you seem to have experienced more than your fair share of aggressive drivers than the average cyclist and wonder whether, at times, your presumably assertive style of riding sometimes tips over into something more. I hasten to add that I am no fan of the current perceived wisdom which says victims should shoulder some of the blame for their situation, but I'm just as guilty as you of instinctively wanting to face down bullies and I know it's often difficult to get the balance right between rewarding bad behaviour by not doing anything, and a shrug of the shoulders. Keep safe. :smile:
splendidly thoughtful post. And thanks for the final sentiment
What happens when car driving sociopath meets cycle riding sociopath, now there's a question innit? Esp when cycle riding one is a big unit and not afraid of bullies and driver has got out of his car/van weapon.

of course I sometimes wonder if it is me and my riding style but plenty of folk, here and elsewhere, have ridden with me and found no fault they've shared with me. Ok User13710 doesn't like my singing voice, srw goes a funny colour if I turn up on my fixed, and Dell moans that I don't brake enough on the downhill sides of Scottish mountains. I will hold primary in the face of oncoming traffic on an SC because taking secondary on the road I ride to work invites the squeeze past. It isn't me preventing the overtake but the oncoming traffic after all.:whistle:

I think locality is more of the issue. The town where I work is virtually a bicycle free zone. A fair number of my colleagues encounter the same behaviours locally; one of whom, my boss as it happens, lives in the same town as me and thus uses the same last 3-4 km (the choke of the B2115/B2036/A272 where all these incidents have happened bar one) commute to work 20km away. For the hugely fewer miles/hours of commuting he's done he's had far more close encounters of the turd kind than me. Given how often/long I was riding up from 08 until August last year, on rural routes where cyclists are always "unexpected" by the rat running drivers, who fit every SE stereotype going, ime, I think my hit rate is pretty low. Competition secretary of our club has been hospitalised by smidsys three times in last three years. Every member of our cycling forum committee was offed in the last 12 months and three had bones broken. They just accept it as the price of being a cyclist and campaign for segregated facilities whilst I prefer direct action.
 
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gavgav

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No. It's criminal damage and you are liable to be thumped by an irate driver or worse
 
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When casting the CC amdram LOTR, Benborp gets to be one of the elves.

I can be an extremely angry elf...
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taken just after nearly being rear ended by a dwarf in an Aston. I can't do the Quintana face thing...

And Adrian, less of the am...
 

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GrumpyGregry

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I can be an extremely angry elf...
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taken just after nearly being rear ended by a dwarf in an Aston. I can't do the Quintana face thing...

And Adrian, less of the am...
is one a professional ac-tor?
 

ianrauk

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Once again someone comes up with 'you are liable to come up with an irate driver'.
People spout that mantra as if cyclists should just put their head down and run/ride away and that they shouldn't confront motor thuggery. Well whoop de bloody doo.. I tell you what, a car driver purposely endangers this cyclists life then you can be sure that this cyclist will be more irate and angry then any car driver will ever be. I will not be bullied, I will not be forced off the road. Car drivers have absolutely no right to intimidate, act aggressive or bully cyclists off the road. I am not talking about some crappy close pass I am talking about pure aggression by a car driver, aggression that can kill.
 

ComedyPilot

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Once again someone comes up with 'you are liable to come up with an irate driver'.
People spout that mantra as if cyclists should just put their head down and run/ride away and that they shouldn't confront motor thuggery. Well whoop de bloody doo.. I tell you what, a car driver purposely endangers this cyclists life then you can be sure that this cyclist will be more irate and angry then any car driver will ever be. I will not be bullied, I will not be forced off the road. Car drivers have absolutely no right to intimidate, act aggressive or bully cyclists off the road. I am not talking about some crappy close pass I am talking about pure aggression by a car driver, aggression that can kill.
That needs more than a like....


A TMN perhaps?
 
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