Tea? (Part 2)
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Night Train
Maker of Things
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Latest news of Granville.
This morning (actually yesterday morning but it still feels like today to me) I was in York at Spandex's workshop.
I picked up two aluminium rims and 75 stainless steel spokes.
They were to compliment the Sturmey Archer front drum brake hub and it's matching 3 speed drum brake hub for the rear, both fairly newish and very cheap from Ebay.
I spent the afternoon, in my now cleared hallway/bike workshop space, building wheels with a three cross pattern.
Following Sheldon Brown's advice I made sure the spokes on the outside of the flanges are in the drive direction on the rear but also decided that they should, therefore, be on the braking direction for the front. Also I made sure the hub label was facing the valve hole but being one who 'doesn't do brands' I reversed the hub and put the Sturmey Archer logo facing opposite the valve hole and the hub model number facing the valve hole instead.
The front one was fairly straight forward to fit and set up using the cable terminals from Granville's old sidepull brakes. For the lack of the proper clip for the reaction arm I used a decent quality hose clip. The original cable in the white outer was too short to reach the hub so I used a black outer left over from the Ratrike and an nearly new inner recovered from breaking an Apollo BSO for scrap metal.
After dinner I went to the theatre to 'touch base' with the Director to make sure the set was going to plan before returning to carry on with Granville's back wheel.
The rear was a bit more fiddly as the wheel is very slightly dished to clear the sprocket but all the spokes were the same length. Spandex said to trim 1mm off the end of the spokes and it would be fine. I did that and they were.
The rim tape broke though, the valve hole was punched too close to one edge and then repunched in manufacture so there was very little rubber left. It broke when I was refitting it so I rescued one from an old 60 radial spoke BMX wheel that I had in my scrap metal pile.
That left three spare spokes, exactly as provided.
The gear selector was simple to change over as the twist shift used for the original Shimano hub is a Sturmey Archer unit anyway. The cable was rerouted on the frame to fit better and the new toggle chain fitted.
The brake cable was long enough once it was rerouted from the side pull to the hub on the other side of the chain stays. Not having the correct barrel anchor for the cable end I used a stack of washers on an M6 nut and bolt to clamp the cable on the brake lever on the hub.
Then I cut a bit of scrap steel and folded it into a clip for the reaction arm.
Tomorrow I will take Granville out and bed in the brakes to see how they work. They didn't feel promising in the hallway but that may be just down to final adjustment.
Not a bad day's work and brings Granville's all up cost to date to £99.50.
The next 'improvement' will be to get a smaller sprocket for the hub. Granville has been running on an 18 tooth hub giving 35.8", 47.7" and 63.6".
Using a 14 tooth sprocket will give me 46", 61.4" and 81.8". That is fine as it gives me a higher top speed for chasing roadies
and I only ever used the 35.8" first gear for following elderly pedestrians on shared paths.
This morning (actually yesterday morning but it still feels like today to me) I was in York at Spandex's workshop.
I picked up two aluminium rims and 75 stainless steel spokes.
They were to compliment the Sturmey Archer front drum brake hub and it's matching 3 speed drum brake hub for the rear, both fairly newish and very cheap from Ebay.
I spent the afternoon, in my now cleared hallway/bike workshop space, building wheels with a three cross pattern.
Following Sheldon Brown's advice I made sure the spokes on the outside of the flanges are in the drive direction on the rear but also decided that they should, therefore, be on the braking direction for the front. Also I made sure the hub label was facing the valve hole but being one who 'doesn't do brands' I reversed the hub and put the Sturmey Archer logo facing opposite the valve hole and the hub model number facing the valve hole instead.
The front one was fairly straight forward to fit and set up using the cable terminals from Granville's old sidepull brakes. For the lack of the proper clip for the reaction arm I used a decent quality hose clip. The original cable in the white outer was too short to reach the hub so I used a black outer left over from the Ratrike and an nearly new inner recovered from breaking an Apollo BSO for scrap metal.
After dinner I went to the theatre to 'touch base' with the Director to make sure the set was going to plan before returning to carry on with Granville's back wheel.
The rear was a bit more fiddly as the wheel is very slightly dished to clear the sprocket but all the spokes were the same length. Spandex said to trim 1mm off the end of the spokes and it would be fine. I did that and they were.
The rim tape broke though, the valve hole was punched too close to one edge and then repunched in manufacture so there was very little rubber left. It broke when I was refitting it so I rescued one from an old 60 radial spoke BMX wheel that I had in my scrap metal pile.
That left three spare spokes, exactly as provided.
The gear selector was simple to change over as the twist shift used for the original Shimano hub is a Sturmey Archer unit anyway. The cable was rerouted on the frame to fit better and the new toggle chain fitted.
The brake cable was long enough once it was rerouted from the side pull to the hub on the other side of the chain stays. Not having the correct barrel anchor for the cable end I used a stack of washers on an M6 nut and bolt to clamp the cable on the brake lever on the hub.
Then I cut a bit of scrap steel and folded it into a clip for the reaction arm.
Tomorrow I will take Granville out and bed in the brakes to see how they work. They didn't feel promising in the hallway but that may be just down to final adjustment.
Not a bad day's work and brings Granville's all up cost to date to £99.50.
The next 'improvement' will be to get a smaller sprocket for the hub. Granville has been running on an 18 tooth hub giving 35.8", 47.7" and 63.6".
Using a 14 tooth sprocket will give me 46", 61.4" and 81.8". That is fine as it gives me a higher top speed for chasing roadies
and I only ever used the 35.8" first gear for following elderly pedestrians on shared paths.
coffeejo
Ælfrēd
- Location
- West Somerset
Oooh, did you ride him around the house?
Night Train
Maker of Things
- Location
- Greater Manchester
Sort of, Granville had a quick ride up and down the hall.
This morning's ride was short, back brake fine, can lock the wheel, front brake needs a bit more bedding in.
Time for lunch I think.:-)
This morning's ride was short, back brake fine, can lock the wheel, front brake needs a bit more bedding in.
Time for lunch I think.:-)
Arch
Married to Night Train
- Location
- Salford, UK
Yay for new brakes!
We're busy busy busy here. Got Oli to school by 9, then into town with Max for some shopping, playing in the park, and coffee. Max had a croissant, and I think he's used to defending his food, seeing how fast he ate it. We left quickly before the staff saw the amount of crumbs under the highchair...
Then Mummy went to have lunch at school with Oli, and bring him home, while Max and I watched the "Here comes the Train" DVD. And then "Here comes the Tractor". And "Here comes the Digger". We'd just run out of "Here comes" when Mummy and Oli got home. Now we're having some playtime with Oli (Max is having a nap), and waiting for the Waitrose man to come. Mummy has constructed a very complicated train track. Oli says they are being James May.
Oli says that ladies can't be paleontologists. I think he's wrong about that, but you try explaining emancipation to a 4 year old.
Max mainly says "Apple!" and "Lorry!" and "Tractrac!" and "Digger!"
Arch
Married to Night Train
- Location
- Salford, UK
Yay for new brakes!
We're busy busy busy here. Got Oli to school by 9, then into town with Max for some shopping, playing in the park, and coffee. Max had a croissant, and I think he's used to defending his food, seeing how fast he ate it. We left quickly before the staff saw the amount of crumbs under the highchair...
Then Mummy went to have lunch at school with Oli, and bring him home, while Max and I watched the "Here comes the Train" DVD. And then "Here comes the Tractor". And "Here comes the Digger". We'd just run out of "Here comes" when Mummy and Oli got home. Now we're having some playtime with Oli (Max is having a nap), and waiting for the Waitrose man to come. Mummy has constructed a very complicated train track. Oli says they are being James May.
Oli says that ladies can't be paleontologists. I think he's wrong about that, but you try explaining emancipation to a 4 year old.
Max mainly says "Apple!" and "Lorry!" and "Tractrac!" and "Digger!"
- Location
- Next door to Mr Benn at No 54
Arch, I think you should stop playing with the duplo now!
coffeejo
Ælfrēd
- Location
- West Somerset
potsy
Rambler
- Location
- My Armchair
I didn't think he'd met Potsy
Shut it Jo, we don't do those poncy croissant thingies up here
I thought the wind was meant to be dropping today? It's just as bad out there as yesterday
coffeejo
Ælfrēd
- Location
- West Somerset
Shut it Jo, we don't do those poncy croissant thingies up here
I thought the wind was meant to be dropping today? It's just as bad out there as yesterday
I managed to walk the dog during the only rain shower we've had all day
potsy
Rambler
- Location
- My Armchair
I managed to walk the dog during the only rain shower we've had all day
Hee Hee that'll learn ya
Done my commute and I'm now going back out for a 10-15 mile leisure ride on the Mersey trail, mind you I need to work off the half pack of Jaffa cakes I've just schromphed
coffeejo
Ælfrēd
- Location
- West Somerset
Hee Hee that'll learn ya
Done my commute and I'm now going back out for a 10-15 mile leisure ride on the Mersey trail, mind you I need to work off the half pack of Jaffa cakes I've just schromphed
I'd say tut tut but I'm off out in a bit with the boys to burn off yesterday's chocolate munchies
potsy
Rambler
- Location
- My Armchair
You seem to be hanging out with a lot of boys lately Jo,
- Location
- Next door to Mr Benn at No 54
Yesterday evening I went out for a meal and had fish and chips, followed by double chocolate pudding with cream, acccompanied by some lager.
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