Won't be home till 9 tonight so will miss this I'm afraid! Have fun guys
Hi McWhortface.
Let me know when you're up for the run, it would be great join you.
Cheers
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Hi McWhortface.
Let me know when you're up for the run, it would be great join you.
Cheers
Perky77
Senior Member
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Apologies gents for being out of action last week - I had a near fatal dose of man flu
Missed competing last stage of goats and chaingang unfortunately
Feel like a human today for first time in a while so will be ready for the ride tonight.
Missed competing last stage of goats and chaingang unfortunately
Feel like a human today for first time in a while so will be ready for the ride tonight.
Damn, work is getting in the way.The next Handicap Chase is 2016 Banff GranFondo S3
Next run is 8pm (plus Start Time) tonight, Tuesday 29th November 2016.
Start Times (Handicaps) are as follows... (when underway time equals or exceeds the given Start Time).
If anyone else wants to take part, can they let us know a competitive time for the stage, or failing that their fitness level and who they usually finish close to.
Your handicap is based on your previous times, and is used to generate a Start Time.
Like golf, the higher the Handicap the more assistance you get, so the earlier the Start Time.
Your Handicap is reduced slightly if you have only completed one chase, and reduced more if you have completed none (and your time is based on doing the stage outside the handicap format). Therefore you are rewarded for completing the handicap chase once, and rewarded more for a second one, as your time should more closely reflect your current potential.
Finally, the Handicap is also reduced slightly for those who are furthest behind the fastest time, as they have more chance of significantly improving their times. The front runners will always struggle to improve their times much, especially after a couple of runs, so they need the full Handicap to stay competitive.
This algorithm has developed across several stages (and previous Chain Gang rides) and closed the bulk of the field from around 10 minutes to around 3 minutes, and hopefully future runs will close it up again slightly.
It is always likely that the win will be taken by an early starter who improves significantly, which is probably a good thing as it improves motivation. It is also possible that any significant under performance on previous bests will result in trailing in at the back, for even the fastest riders. I don't think this can be helped. However, so long as the bulk of the entrants finish close together it should make for a more entertaining session for the majority, and make the format worthwhile.
Geoff
AAAC 76C
Large Member
- Location
- LIVING THE DREAM
The next Handicap Chase is 2016 Banff GranFondo S3
Next run is 8pm (plus Start Time) tonight, Tuesday 29th November 2016.
Start Times (Handicaps) are as follows... (when underway time equals or exceeds the given Start Time).
If anyone else wants to take part, can they let us know a competitive time for the stage, or failing that their fitness level and who they usually finish close to.
Your handicap is based on your previous times, and is used to generate a Start Time.
Like golf, the higher the Handicap the more assistance you get, so the earlier the Start Time.
Your Handicap is reduced slightly if you have only completed one chase, and reduced more if you have completed none (and your time is based on doing the stage outside the handicap format). Therefore you are rewarded for completing the handicap chase once, and rewarded more for a second one, as your time should more closely reflect your current potential.
Finally, the Handicap is also reduced slightly for those who are furthest behind the fastest time, as they have more chance of significantly improving their times. The front runners will always struggle to improve their times much, especially after a couple of runs, so they need the full Handicap to stay competitive.
This algorithm has developed across several stages (and previous Chain Gang rides) and closed the bulk of the field from around 10 minutes to around 3 minutes, and hopefully future runs will close it up again slightly.
It is always likely that the win will be taken by an early starter who improves significantly, which is probably a good thing as it improves motivation. It is also possible that any significant under performance on previous bests will result in trailing in at the back, for even the fastest riders. I don't think this can be helped. However, so long as the bulk of the entrants finish close together it should make for a more entertaining session for the majority, and make the format worthwhile.
Geoff
Did tonites ride early 2 dead did not go HFL so a few should best me. Its a quick course bar the obvious lump.
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
Turns out eating takeaway pizza 40 mins before getting on the turbo isn't a good idea. Who woulda guessed...
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
I have a theory for why there are sessions running...
If one of the league members starts a session early, without a password, then others join, and even if the league member finishes, others can keep joining at the start and keep the session alive for hours! So when we try to start the official session, there is already one running and it joins that instead.
It's the only explanation for why people who ar unlikely to know the password are riding the sessions.
So can I ask, if anyone rides a Handicap session before the group ride, please apply a password to ensure that when you end the session, there are no other riders to keep it alive...
Thanks,
Geoff
If one of the league members starts a session early, without a password, then others join, and even if the league member finishes, others can keep joining at the start and keep the session alive for hours! So when we try to start the official session, there is already one running and it joins that instead.
It's the only explanation for why people who ar unlikely to know the password are riding the sessions.
So can I ask, if anyone rides a Handicap session before the group ride, please apply a password to ensure that when you end the session, there are no other riders to keep it alive...
Thanks,
Geoff
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Yes Geoff I think you've solved the mystery - it's all AAAC'S fault!
Late nights back from work all week so probably not until Friday now!
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
gbrown
Geoff on Bkool
- Location
- South Somerset
Oh Cr@p!! No, sorry - wife borrowed trainer earlier and I forgot to change the weight back
bobinski
Legendary Member
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- Tulse Hill
I think I started early- if so sorry TT
