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Geoff on Bkool
Location
South Somerset
Hi, I haven't posted anything for ages but I've been catching up on the forum for the last couple of months. I've been riding outside, as some of you may have seen on Strava, trying to stay fit without over exerting myself, and had a decent summer despite the last month or two being mainly rain and wind. Now the sun is getting low in the sky, which makes cycling unpleasant for me, I am wondering whether to come back to bkool training. My main concern is that the competitive element makes it tempting to over exert oneself, and that is a risk I should no longer take. Trundling along at 70-80% effort may not be that interesting, but at least it will maintain some fitness.

I fancied a NEO 2T (or perhaps the 2 as it's discounted) but my local shop stocks and sells Wahoo and I had a play with the KICKR 2018 and Climb yesterday. They say that they sell a lot of them and the problems from last winter are all gone, but I guess if I have issues I can just take it back in! This is much easier than returning to Wiggle, et al. Also it seems the Neo 2T is not without issues?

They've offered me 10% off, so the KICKR 2018 is actually cheaper than the discounted NEO 2 and Wahoo do a bundle that makes the Climb another £150 cheaper if bought in the bundle so I'm very tempted to get both! The climb does seem a bit of a gimic but could make the rides a bit more involving if the gradient changes give some variety. Plus, I like techy gimics!

Would definitely come back to Bkool, as I would start just by riding some of the local routes I uploaded in the past. Then if I think I can keep up with any of you without overdoing it I may sneak in at the back of some of the rides! :shy:

While in the shop, I had a quick whizz around the block on a new Specialised Creo e-road bike. Much nicer than the one I tried a couple of years ago, looks pretty much like a normal road bike, with less of a weight penalty, but still pretty hefty to pick up (about 13-14 kg with pedals, etc.). The electric assist is epic and it would make long climbs a lot less boring, as once gradients approach double figures I am reduced to a heart rate limited crawl. However, once up to 16 mph or so I could feel the assistance quit and it felt a little heavy and hard to go any faster. Since I am usually faster than this on anything less than a medium climb, most of the time I would prefer to be on my normal road bike. The Creo was nice, and it would be fun to have as an option, but at £7,500 (or £11,000 for the S-Works) it's far too expensive for an occasional spin. While I can still just about make it up the 10-15% gradients unassisted I'll stick to my just using my legs.

It is impressive though how fast the technology is improving, and it seems inevitable that one day I will get one, if only to make the longer climbs less boring.

Cheers,

Geoff

P.S. Nice to see that Bkool have finally recognised the need for a more level playing field to attract or retain riders with non-bkool trainers, shame they didn't do this many years ago, before half the people here had defected to the other place! It seems to me that bkool is still the best place for group rides, route variety and riding your own routes. No longer having to accept the huge disadvantages we faced if we moved to a different trainer is a real bonus.
 
Hi, I haven't posted anything for ages but I've been catching up on the forum for the last couple of months. I've been riding outside, as some of you may have seen on Strava, trying to stay fit without over exerting myself, and had a decent summer despite the last month or two being mainly rain and wind. Now the sun is getting low in the sky, which makes cycling unpleasant for me, I am wondering whether to come back to bkool training. My main concern is that the competitive element makes it tempting to over exert oneself, and that is a risk I should no longer take. Trundling along at 70-80% effort may not be that interesting, but at least it will maintain some fitness.

I fancied a NEO 2T (or perhaps the 2 as it's discounted) but my local shop stocks and sells Wahoo and I had a play with the KICKR 2018 and Climb yesterday. They say that they sell a lot of them and the problems from last winter are all gone, but I guess if I have issues I can just take it back in! This is much easier than returning to Wiggle, et al. Also it seems the Neo 2T is not without issues?

They've offered me 10% off, so the KICKR 2018 is actually cheaper than the discounted NEO 2 and Wahoo do a bundle that makes the Climb another £150 cheaper if bought in the bundle so I'm very tempted to get both! The climb does seem a bit of a gimic but could make the rides a bit more involving if the gradient changes give some variety. Plus, I like techy gimics!

Would definitely come back to Bkool, as I would start just by riding some of the local routes I uploaded in the past. Then if I think I can keep up with any of you without overdoing it I may sneak in at the back of some of the rides! :shy:

While in the shop, I had a quick whizz around the block on a new Specialised Creo e-road bike. Much nicer than the one I tried a couple of years ago, looks pretty much like a normal road bike, with less of a weight penalty, but still pretty hefty to pick up (about 13-14 kg with pedals, etc.). The electric assist is epic and it would make long climbs a lot less boring, as once gradients approach double figures I am reduced to a heart rate limited crawl. However, once up to 16 mph or so I could feel the assistance quit and it felt a little heavy and hard to go any faster. Since I am usually faster than this on anything less than a medium climb, most of the time I would prefer to be on my normal road bike. The Creo was nice, and it would be fun to have as an option, but at £7,500 (or £11,000 for the S-Works) it's far too expensive for an occasional spin. While I can still just about make it up the 10-15% gradients unassisted I'll stick to my just using my legs.

It is impressive though how fast the technology is improving, and it seems inevitable that one day I will get one, if only to make the longer climbs less boring.

Cheers,

Geoff

P.S. Nice to see that Bkool have finally recognised the need for a more level playing field to attract or retain riders with non-bkool trainers, shame they didn't do this many years ago, before half the people here had defected to the other place! It seems to me that bkool is still the best place for group rides, route variety and riding your own routes. No longer having to accept the huge disadvantages we faced if we moved to a different trainer is a real bonus.
There is plenty of room at the back! The Bkool video rides really do make a difference on an indoor ride.
 

keithaitch

Veteran
Location
barcelona
There is plenty of room at the back! The Bkool video rides really do make a difference on an indoor ride.
I agree 105%. Whilst I thoroughly love the competitive side, it isn't all I want and bkool's variety is the big thing that keeps me here rather than elsewhere. Being in a sunny climate I have much more opportunity to ride outdoors, yesterday or was 23° and the tights are still in the winter draw but I never imagined indoor training could actually be fun and be it a race or a video ride up some alpine pass bkool meets my needs so well that I forgive them for the (not so) occasional glitch. I'll be riding today but won't start it so we will probably ride the route we are meant to. I also see you have competition for the red lantern @Randyberlin!
 
The sun is coming up and the challenge awaits. The motivation isn’t Seamus but the next song on that Pink Floyd album “Fearless”.... the hills too steep to climb? Climb it.
 

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shimceltic

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8 am

Edit: nice new avatar
One I made when the weather was better! Dedication to ride at 8am 👏
 
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