The AA Complaining Again

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col

Legendary Member
1780516 said:
Oh well if you don't have the appetite for it, fair enough.
Its not as simple as that, I have a family with all the needs as usual. so not being there most nights for these wouldnt be a good thing either. And I dont think Id enjoy that at all, even if I was up to it.
 
Yawn.
Typical of the tripe trotted out by the greens. Take away the motor industry and it's products with all the related employment and tax paying benefits of manufacture and use and then see what sort of ecomomy you end up with. Somewhere level with Cambodia or Vietnam I should think.
Life expectancy Vietnam 74.6 years. Life expectancy UK 80.1 years, 3 of which are spent in a car, and an average 7 years - I have it on good authority - are spent actively resenting the cost of spending 3 years in a car.
 

DRHysted

Guru
Location
New Forest
1780516 said:
Oh well if you don't have the appetite for it, fair enough.
It's not a simple case of appetite.

When you are doing shifts like that, the shifts alone can tire you. Add in the cycling, and lack of sleep, due to limited time to get it, and you start on a downward spiral. I can only continually cycle to work, because the firm I'm on contract to insists on limited shift runs (I suppose they don't want their site going up in smoke).
 

DRHysted

Guru
Location
New Forest
I would like to know how many people that want fuel prices to raise, also want energy bills to increase. Are you living in an overheated house? Anything over 15C is overheated.
 
Not really, I start as early as six in the morning, and normally dont finish till half seven. taking travel time then wash and change to go, Id have to be up at four and near enough straight out the door. Then coming home at nine or later as I finish at quarter to eight on some shifts, wouldnt be the most practical commute. Also the route by car is mainly motorway, I dont know what it is the other way for cycling, but will be a few more miles . So could be quite a bit longer.

You could do a hybrid journey to save half your petrol costs. Drive in with the bike in the back, cycle home. Cycle in the next morning, drive home.
 

al78

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Location
Horsham
1780508 said:
So eminently cycleable then

Not necessarily. There is no way I would be able to cycle that distance on a daily basis. I couldn't manage a 24 mile round trip every day even after a couple of years. I can just about manage the 19 mile round trip now, and even then there are occasional days I feel so exhausted in the morning I can't face the journey.
 
Not necessarily. There is no way I would be able to cycle that distance on a daily basis. I couldn't manage a 24 mile round trip every day even after a couple of years. I can just about manage the 19 mile round trip now, and even then there are occasional days I feel so exhausted in the morning I can't face the journey.

Mine is 24 miles round trip. 40-50 mins each way and I arrive home with my brain completely switched off from work & the stress of the day burnt off. Takes about 20 mins each way longer than driving but I save spending time at the gym keeping fit
 

screenman

Squire
Both my wife and I have separate mobile business, so fuel is a cost that we have to factor into our charge for service. That said I am not unduly concerned at the price or where it is going, we will both just charge you the customer more.

What I would like to see and I do not have a clue how it will be done is a reduction in short journey trips, the local school run etc. We have a family in this small village whose child never once walked the 90 yards to school in all the time he was there, and the mum used to go straight back home and park the car up until pickup time.

Somebody earlier said there was a time when we did without cars, yes of course there was as there was a time without bike.

I am lucky enough to have the space to keep a horse or two, however I think these can be a bit prohibitive in terms of costs and practicality to run.

Can somebody point me to a bike rack that will fit on a horse? I do not want to tow a trailer as this will increase hay consumption.
 
What I would like to see and I do not have a clue how it will be done is a reduction in short journey trips, the local school run etc. We have a family in this small village whose child never once walked the 90 yards to school in all the time he was there, and the mum used to go straight back home and park the car up until pickup time.

This. It's about changing attitudes of those that can choose not to use a car for absolutely everything. Once they realise it's costing more to drive for the sunday paper than the thing is costing it might begin to sink in other ways of getting about are possible. Like walking. They might even dust off their bikes.
Weather has been nice the last few days. I'll predict another increase in cycling numbers this year as fuel costs continue to rise, and it will.
Fuel costs are going to change the country, unfortunately for some it will be painful. A long term a change of attitude to driving and reducing vehicle use can IMO only be a good thing. Financial pain seems to be the only way reducing car use that actually works.
 

Paul J

Guest
sorry - you live in the Outer Hebrides and think that the tax regime for a country that is largely urban should be founded on your predicament?

I don't I did for best part of 7-8ish years. Sorry you feel that country folk should be dictated to by townies with your urban sprawl. :tongue:
 
Not necessarily. There is no way I would be able to cycle that distance on a daily basis. I couldn't manage a 24 mile round trip every day even after a couple of years. I can just about manage the 19 mile round trip now, and even then there are occasional days I feel so exhausted in the morning I can't face the journey.

I'm surprised at that. I only have a 13 mile round trip, but arrive at work buzzing and full of energy due to the workout, and chilled out when I get back home (as I take it a bit slower). When I used to drive, that was when I was getting stressed, being stuck in the traffic queues. It was only a month or so after switching to cycle commuting (about 6 years ago), that I'd realised just how tensed up my shoulders had got from that car journey.
 

Paul J

Guest
Not really, I start as early as six in the morning, and normally dont finish till half seven. taking travel time then wash and change to go, Id have to be up at four and near enough straight out the door. Then coming home at nine or later as I finish at quarter to eight on some shifts, wouldnt be the most practical commute. Also the route by car is mainly motorway, I dont know what it is the other way for cycling, but will be a few more miles . So could be quite a bit longer.

Couldn't agree with you more. People that think shift work is easy, they need to give it a go.

The smugness of people on this thread will disappear when they have a live changing problem that stops them from riding their bikes, or the trolls find a big enough rock to crawl under.
 
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