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deptfordmarmoset

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I'm looking forward to this one. Aussies to bat first. I almost hope they win, just to keep the series alive. Almost...
 

brodiej

Guru
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Waindell,
I'm looking forward to this one. Aussies to bat first. I almost hope they win, just to keep the series alive. Almost...


It's a great feeling to say that! Especially to some Aussies while looking at them with a synpathetic face.

I remember having a group of Aussies saying to us in Brisbane with a sickly compassionate face "I really hope the Poms do OK against Australia A - it would be good to see a good game"

Unfortunately we had to bludgeon them to death
 

brodiej

Guru
Location
Waindell,
More DRS crap.

If he didn't hit it nothing would show up on hotspot so he would have to be given out on upires call
If he had hit it he would have been given out anway.

So DRS is utterly pointless and we may as well go back to the umpires decision and save time

(Even snicko suggested he got it wrong on this occasion and he didn't hit it - snicko starngely not being admissable)

All round a masive waste of time.
 

Durian

Über Member
The Aussies have had some poor decsions go against them this series. Worryingly, I'm beginning to feel sorry for them.
 

brodiej

Guru
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Waindell,
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Shocking decision in village cricket
 
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User482

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The Aussies have had some poor decsions go against them this series. Worryingly, I'm beginning to feel sorry for them.

True, but so have we - Trott's stumping and Agar given not out for example. All in all though, the third umpire is pretty pointless if he's going to keep misinterpreting the DRS evidence.
 

brodiej

Guru
Location
Waindell,
True, but so have we - Trott's stumping and Agar given not out for example. All in all though, the third umpire is pretty pointless if he's going to keep misinterpreting the DRS evidence.


Trott was given out LBW (not stumped) because hotspot was turned off.

With the evidence available there was no hotspot so it was the right decision given the lack of ball on bat. Michael Holding live on commentary was pretty clear it was out.

Agar's stumping was a debatable line call but split the comm box 50:50

That's nothing to the numerous outrageous decisions against Australia like Broad edging to slip / Bell being caught at gully / Rogers out off a Swann beamer that wouldn't have hit another set of stumps etc
 
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User482

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Trott was given out LBW (not stumped) because hotspot was turned off.

With the evidence available there was no hotspot so it was the right decision given the lack of ball on bat. Michael Holding live on commentary was pretty clear it was out.

Agar's stumping was a debatable line call but split the comm box 50:50

That's nothing to the numerous outrageous decisions against Australia like Broad edging to slip / Bell being caught at gully / Rogers out off a Swann beamer that wouldn't have hit another set of stumps etc

Sorry, yes, the lbw. Trott got an apology from the ICC and it was Sky who messed up the review, so I wouldn't take too much notice of the commentators. The point is it was given not out by the on-field umpire, and shouldn't have been overturned, because the technology wasn't available to prove the umpire had made a mistake. The ICC have admitted as much.

Agar was out - he was given out on-field and again there was no clear evidence the umpire had made a mistake.

As for Australia, they've certainly had some rough decisions, and I see no point in referring catches for review - it's been shown before that they appear to be grassed on tv, when in fact it's a clean catch. Don't understand the fuss about Broad though - very few players walk when they've nicked it.
 

AndyRM

XOXO
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North Shields
Don't understand the fuss about Broad though - very few players walk when they've nicked it.

A pointless media frenzy over absolutely nothing. Any time I heard a current or former pro talking about it, they said they'd have done the same.

Anyway, I quite like the controversies, adds a bit of spice to the game. Certainly not going to have any sympathy for an Australian weeping into his tinny because of a dodgy decision.
 

brodiej

Guru
Location
Waindell,
I think the problem is both sides have lost faith in the umpires who have lost faith in themselves.

When genuine reviews like Khawaja get turned down, so players try it on hoping the 3rd umpire will give one of his trademark "coin-toss" decisions.

Hence England wasting both their reviews ridiculously already after only 3 wickets down.

Bring on the Indian no review system worldwide I say.

It worked for the last 35 years of my cricket watching enjoyment
 
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