the East-West Superhighway

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Stupid cyclist with the helmet on was crazy to do that overtake with oncoming traffic. I'd be suing her(?) for damages.
 
You remember roads that were wide enough for three lanes, the middle one being where the more enthusiastic driver could meet another similarly minded person head on? The Superhighway is pretty much the right width to recreate those.
The roads now have a formal arrangement two lanes one way and one the other, or hatched areas to create no-man's-land.
Except than stretch doesn't look wide enough for 3 cyclists. It looks to me like it should have a dotted white line down the middle and be done with it.
 
It is just about wide enough, provided they use the space and don't wobble. These are not realistic expectations though.
That's a terrible state. As a cyclist I expect wobble room from cars and other cyclists. It should have dotted lines down the middle to demonstrate is one cyclist each way. Rule about overtaking should be the same as for cars. Do it if safe and clear. The clip shows a failure to do this.
 
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subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
Except than stretch doesn't look wide enough for 3 cyclists. It looks to me like it should have a dotted white line down the middle and be done with it.
TFL took the white lines out of the scheme to create "greater capacity" .

have a look at the proposal document revisions available on line.

norfolks favourite segregationist will be along in a minute saying the LCC protested on behalf of all cyclists to put the line back.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Can someone else search for what LCC said about that bit, please? ;) I think I've written before that I feel the alignment through that underpass and both sides of it is pretty poor and routing the track up and over and using the signals complex already on the bridge approach to change sides of the road would have been far better for most people - I expect it might have cost more, though and maybe Network Rail objected (as they often do to cycle tracks, in my experience). As a minimum, that narrow bit should probably be lined - I agree with @Markymark.

Anyway, person overtakes into oncoming traffic and crashes. The only thing I think is at all remarkable is how the hire bike just rolls through it all seemingly unscathed.
 

Spinney

Bimbleur extraordinaire
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Back up north
As someone who has no intention of riding in London, I'm still curious - there is a raised kerb - is the other side of that kerb the road with cars? i.e. the guy who was tipped over the kerb was lucky there wasn't a car coming?

I can see why the kerb is there, but on the other hand doesn't it make a simple wobble near the kerb more dangerous, as likely to result in a proper off instead of potentially just a wobble a bit too close to the line of the motor traffic?
 
As someone who has no intention of riding in London, I'm still curious - there is a raised kerb - is the other side of that kerb the road with cars? i.e. the guy who was tipped over the kerb was lucky there wasn't a car coming?

I can see why the kerb is there, but on the other hand doesn't it make a simple wobble near the kerb more dangerous, as likely to result in a proper off instead of potentially just a wobble a bit too close to the line of the motor traffic?
Depends whether you think hitting the kerb is worth sacrificing cars staying out of the lane.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
As someone who has no intention of riding in London, I'm still curious - there is a raised kerb - is the other side of that kerb the road with cars?
Yes.

i.e. the guy who was tipped over the kerb was lucky there wasn't a car coming?
Yes, although I think the phasing of the two sets of lights might have made it unlikely. I suspect he hadn't left a safe stopping distance between him and the cyclist in front (who crashed into the overtaker) and if there had been traffic that side, he might have chosen to crash more to the right.

I can see why the kerb is there, but on the other hand doesn't it make a simple wobble near the kerb more dangerous, as likely to result in a proper off instead of potentially just a wobble a bit too close to the line of the motor traffic?
The kerbs are sloped so it should trading that fairly minimal risk for the near-certainty that motorists drive into the cycle lane if there's no obstacle to them doing so. Heck, a determined or hapless few keep trying despite the obstacles...
 
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