The Football.....

[srj10]

That is my thinking. Big fish in little pool.
I hope he proves me wrong.

I think the jury is still out as to whether he is a big fish, the fact is that Celtic dropped the ball when Brendan Rodgers left and handed the initiative to Rangers who to their credit took full advantage. Time will tell.

 

[AndyRM]

did moyes manage in scotland before going to preston NE

Apparently not. For some reason I thought he'd managed Dundee or someone like that.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Gerrard to Villa could work. It's a bold move for both parties but I'd not be dead set against it myself and could see it working.

I think Lampard was out of his depth at Chelsea, both in terms of the club and the players. I don't think Gerrard will face those same obstacles at Villa and, imho, is the more astute of the two.

I wish Frank hadn't come straight to us as manager and that he'd had a couple of years in the lower echelons of the EPL before (hopefully having done well) coming back to Chelsea.

Huge challenge to run the top tier EPL clubs and no place for someone who has just done a year or two in the Championship or Scottish Premiership as per Gerrard.

 

[jowwy]

I wish Frank hadn't come straight to us as manager and that he'd had a couple of years in the lower echelons of the EPL before (hopefully having done well) coming back to Chelsea.

Huge challenge to run the top tier EPL clubs and no place for someone who has just done a year or two in the Championship or Scottish Premiership as per Gerrard.

are you saying villa are a top tier EPL club??

i mean brendan rodgers had 2 seasons at swansea in the EFl, then got the liverpool job and nearly won the league........

 

[T4tomo]

Shankly, Busby are from a different era, I'll give you Sir Alex but stretching it to say Walter Smith was a success down south, 30% win rate with Everton. As for Moyes he played in Scotland but never managed there AFAIK. Martin Oneill and Neil Lennon had great success with Celtic but couldn't make an impact when they moved to "bigger" clubs.

add to that list of failures, Gordon fecking Strachan, came to Boro and took us from a recently relegated Championship side with a high chance of going back up, to a mid table side with a load a crap ex scot prem journeymen players on fat wages and not justifying their transfer fees!

 

[AndyRM]

add to that list of failures, Gordon fecking Strachan, came to Boro and took us from a recently relegated Championship side with a high chance of going back up, to a mid table side with a load a crap ex scot prem journeymen players on fat wages and not justifying their transfer fees!

To be fair, he did have the grace to know he was making an arse of things and walked without compensation.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

are you saying villa are a top tier EPL club??

i mean brendan rodgers had 2 seasons at swansea in the EFl, then got the liverpool job and nearly won the league........

No they are not imo.

I was merely saying that for relatively 'green' managers such as Gerrard/Lampard that their first EPL berth should not be one of the top echelon clubs in the league imo.

Way too much pressure and expectation and best kept as the preserve of those with proven experience in the 'bigger' European leagues.

 

[jowwy]

No they are not imo.

I was merely saying that for relatively 'green' managers such as Gerrard/Lampard that their first EPL berth should not be one of the top echelon clubs in the league imo.

Way too much pressure and expectation and best kept as the preserve of those with proven experience in the 'bigger' European leagues.

So in your view is villa a good or bad move for gerrard???

 

[AndyRM]

Personally I think it's quite a brave move. Succeed at Villa and how can Liverpool not consider him for the job? Fail and he's nae chance.

Although I always think it's a bit risky bringing a club legend in to manage. Souness and Dalglish (V2) weren't very good.

 

[Accy cyclist]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59246755

A step down, not up in my opinion. What'll he do at Crapston Villas apart from the usual relegation avoidance celebration.

 

[Slick]

Woe the king is dead, long live the King.

 

[AndyRM]

Woe the king is dead, long live the King.

There are some random names on the potential replacements list from what I've seen!

 

[AndyRM]

This is a pretty good read about the situation I think:

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-but-has-he-really-earned-the-aston-villa-job

 

[Grant Fondo]

Currently watching our U21's playing CZE. Well actually filling in time before Ireland play Portugal. Is there anything else on?

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I’m old school but would regard winning the SPL with Rangers as a better job than muddling around with a mid table Villa.

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I disagree.
He won the SPL last year with Rangers so what more has he got to prove in a seasonally two horse race?The last time another club won the league outside of Celtic and Rangers was Aberdeen in 1985.
I think he will be up for the challenge of managing a club outside the top "six".