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Spartak

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Yes, I sat in a lot of those half empty stadiums during the Toshack era, when there would be just a handful of us at away games and we took some terrible beatings on the pitch.

But I believe what Toshack did laid the foundations for what we have now. He took a chance on young kids (Bale at 16 etc) knowing full well we weren't going to win much but that by getting these kids to 50 odd caps by the time they were mid 20's he was building the nucleus of a team for the future which although some years in the making came to fruition at Euro 2016 etc. In my opinion Brian Flynn, the under 21 manager at the time, should also get some credit for unearthing a lot of those kids.

Whilst I realise a lot of the praise for Wales current "success" is heaped upon Gary Speed I do think some of the journalists / pundits should not overlook the contribution of Flynn and Toshack.

I too recall poor performances, one that sticks in the mind was Germany away at Nuremberg, well beaten by a mediocre German side, but despite the football we had a good trip... :okay:
 

MrGrumpy

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I can see Wales getting out of the group stage in November, not a given but do-able v USA and Iran.

Agree good chance assuming Bale stays fit . He seems to be the difference
 

T4tomo

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Agree good chance assuming Bale stays fit . He seems to be the difference

Scotland would have a good chance of finishing ahead of USA & Iran, Wales have an excellent one.

whilst it was incorrect and unfair to put that unresolved qualification in pot 4, when fifa rankings were supposed to be the guide, in the end it worked out fine as they ended up with pretty lame teams from pots 2 & 3.
 

MrGrumpy

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Scotland would have a good chance of finishing ahead of USA & Iran, Wales have an excellent one.
we need a striker , like a decent one . We have plenty options midfield and defence. However we have for a long time now packed a striker .

However back to Wales , Bale is the difference when it matters . If he stays fit then they will do well .
 

Chislenko

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Judging by some comments that Wales may have a chance with playing USA & Iran people seem to be under the impression that England will cruise it.

I feel sure similar sentiments were expressed prior to Euro 2016 when the final group table ended up like below.

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T4tomo

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Judging by some comments that Wales may have a chance with playing USA & Iran people seem to be under the impression that England will cruise it.

I deliberately didn't opine on England in relation to Wales. I'd expect both to qualify from that Group but its never straight forward is it? Scotland outplayed England at the last Euro's. Wales will be well up for it vs England too.
 
Wales will be well up for it vs England too.

D'ya think?!? :laugh:
 
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