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[yello]

so boxing day schedule wouldn't be changed

That would strike me as strange. If you're going to postpone matches due to the Covid situation then surely you want to be doing it immediately.

I know fans like the tradition of Boxing Day games but there are more important things. They're not sacrosanct. If Covid warrants postponements of games on the 28th then it equally, if not more so, does on the 26th.

 

[jowwy]

That would strike me as strange. If you're going to postpone matches due to the Covid situation then surely you want to be doing it immediately.

I know fans like the tradition of Boxing Day games but there are more important things. They're not sacrosanct. If Covid warrants postponements of games on the 28th then it equally, if not more so, does on the 26th.

not sure which games amazon have purchased.....that may come into the decision, but it shouldn't

 

[PaulSB]

according to the premier league statement to chelsea...injuries do not come into it, as thats the normal part of the game.

and as you can also use U23 squads, i cant see how teams like chelsea, spurs, utd with massive squads dont have 14+ players to meet the criteria. This is were there is no transparancy from clubs and the premier league on who is Out with covid and who is injured.

i mean without upsetting @SpokeyDokey here, but chelsea listed Ben Chilwell out with covid on their postponement application who has clearly been out injured for numerous weeks and has not been available to play, they also refused to add U23 players to their squad as per the rules. That would be like liverpool adding harvey elliot on a covid postponement application

Yes, injuries are a normal part of the game but in terms of the number of players available these have to be accounted for by the clubs. A club has 25 players in a squad and say seven out with Covid and five injured, this puts the club below the minimum of 14. Injuries have to be a part of the consideration.

Clubs cannot necessarily use the U23 squads as these players may not have been part of the testing regime. The senior and U23 squads are kept separate to limit contact. I believe the senior squads take PCR tests on a Thursday prior to a Saturday game. If the U23s have not been tested on the same day they would not be able to join the senior squad or take part in the game.

With your example of Ben Chilwell it may be clubs are required to list all players and staff who have Covid. This would make sense and would seem sensible in terms of providing full details on the Covid situation at a club. This makes it more transparent.

Your argument re squad size is irrelevant as all PL clubs have the same number of players in their senior squad. Utd have a massive squad is simply inaccurate - they have 25, as do all other teams. Added to squad numbers is a list of U21 players who are also eligible for the first team. I don't know if postponement decisions are based only on the 25 squad members or includes the U21s.

So and so have a massive squad is a bit simplistic.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

IMHO, having just seen the challenge, that was a red card. Kane was lucky to get away with that. VAR should have asked the ref to look again.

Some of the refereeing this season has been diabolical.
That was a red card every day.

 

[jowwy]

Yes, injuries are a normal part of the game but in terms of the number of players available these have to be accounted for by the clubs. A club has 25 players in a squad and say seven out with Covid and five injured, this puts the club below the minimum of 14. Injuries have to be a part of the consideration.

Clubs cannot necessarily use the U23 squads as these players may not have been part of the testing regime. The senior and U23 squads are kept separate to limit contact. I believe the senior squads take PCR tests on a Thursday prior to a Saturday game. If the U23s have not been tested on the same day they would not be able to join the senior squad or take part in the game.

With your example of Ben Chilwell it may be clubs are required to list all players and staff who have Covid. This would make sense and would seem sensible in terms of providing full details on the Covid situation at a club. This makes it more transparent.

Your argument re squad size is irrelevant as all PL clubs have the same number of players in their senior squad. Utd have a massive squad is simply inaccurate - they have 25, as do all other teams. Added to squad numbers is a list of U21 players who are also eligible for the first team. I don't know if postponement decisions are based only on the 25 squad members or includes the U21s.

So and so have a massive squad is a bit simplistic.

My apologies its under 21s

liverpool had 2 x U21s in their squad yesterday ( 1 of them started the game in midfield), thats part of the rules. you just dont need to name them in your playing list at the start of the season

see the exception rules...UTD, City, chelsea have masses of players under this exception rule

 

[PaulSB]

liverpool had 2 x U21s in their squad yesterday ( 1 of them started the game in midfield), thats part of the rules. you just dont need to name them in your playing list at the start of the season

see the exception rules...UTD, City, chelsea have masses of players under this exception rule

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You really don't seem capable of reading what other posters write. see my post. The senior squad is accompanied by a list of registered U-21 players. They do need to be listed and registered. I can't help but feel you have a persecution complex in relation to LFC. You view the club as being unfairly treated at every turn. It isn't the case, the rules are the rules and it's simply the ordinary fan is not aware of every detail of every case for postponement.

 

[vickster]

Klopp himself said on 17th that having 3 players ineligible due to waiting for inconclusive Covid tests was not a reason to call the game off. BBC website

On whether the game should go ahead or not, Klopp said: "We don’t think we shouldn’t play on Sunday, if in two hours and the players arrive here and we have six, seven or eight more cases then of course we cannot play."

 

[Pale Rider]

Spurs had three or four players on the bench who have been Conte's first picks.

The starting 11 did pretty well, which is encouraging from our point of view.

I've no idea who Liverpool were missing, although I recognised quite a few of their star players.

Isn't this why clubs have squads?

 

[PaulSB]

Klopp himself said on 17th that having 3 players ineligible due to waiting for inconclusive Covid tests was not a reason to call the game off. BBC website

On whether the game should go ahead or not, Klopp said: "We don’t think we shouldn’t play on Sunday, if in two hours and the players arrive here and we have six, seven or eight more cases then of course we cannot play."

I like Klopp and find him an interesting manager to listen to. This though is wrong. In any situation an individual with an inconclusive test should be isolating.

 

[jowwy]

You really don't seem capable of reading what other posters write my post. The senior squad is accompanied by a list of registered U-21 players. They do need to be listed and registered. I can't help but feel you have a persecution complex in relation to LFC. You view the club as being unfairly treated at every turn. It isn't the case, the rules are the rules and it's simply the ordinary fan is not aware of every detail of every case for postponement.

THEY DO NOT FORM PART OF THE 25 players list - u21s are seperate and therefore are outside of the 25

also read my post about banter....rather looking at my post as persecution of liverpool FC - for god sake, is that all people do on here is take everything as literal. My original post was tongue in cheek, but people on here dont do that, they seem to think everything is moaning and groaning.

no wonder people are leaving this forum on a daily basis

 

[vickster]

I like Klopp and find him an interesting manager to listen to. This though is wrong. In any situation an individual with an inconclusive test should be isolating.

Eh? They weren’t involved afaik. This from same report

Virgil van Dijk, Fabinho and Curtis Jones "are fine" and there are no other Covid worries within the squad. The trio are also still waiting for confirmation of their suspected positive tests.

 

[jowwy]

Spurs had three or four players on the bench who have been Conte's first picks.

The starting 11 did pretty well, which is encouraging from our point of view.

I've no idea who Liverpool were missing, although I recognised quite a few of their star players.

Isn't this why clubs have squads?

it is why clubs have squads- so why didnt spurs use their squads rather than postpone games?? liverpool used they squad, chelsea used their squad ( even though they tried to postpone)

 

[AndyRM]

THEY DO NOT FORM PART OF THE 25 players list - u21s are seperate and therefore are outside of the 25

also read my post about banter....rather looking at my post as persecution of liverpool FC - for god sake, is that all people do on here is take everything as literal. My original post was tongue in cheek, but people on here dont do that, they seem to think everything is moaning and groaning.

no wonder people are leaving this forum on a daily basis

You're up for banter, yet claimed "Klippity" is abuse?

Pull the other one, it's got the square of turf Slippy hit, on.

 

[jowwy]

Eh? They weren’t involved afaik. This from same report

Virgil van Dijk, Fabinho and Curtis Jones "are fine" and there are no other Covid worries within the squad. The trio are also still waiting for confirmation of their suspected positive tests.

Thiago?? also missing for covid, not sure where you got that quote from...maybe that was thursdays game against newcastle

 

[vickster]

Thiago?? also missing for covid, not sure where you got that quote from...maybe that was thursdays game against newcastle

Yes I said was on 17th. There was nothing further. So one more player out of 25, leaves 21 without Covid even if injured. The discussion is about postponing due to Covid isn't it?