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PaulSB
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As far as I'm aware there are no penalties or sanctions in the Premier League for match postponement. There are standards all clubs are expected to match. Personally I can't see how any club can be sanctioned for a weather event. There's a huge difference between a pitch being able to drain anticipated rainfall levels and a sudden deluge.
No Ta Doctor
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I agree with @ianrauk but I don't think "big fish in a little pond" is quite the right description, as it suggests dominating smaller opposition but being eaten by bigger fish when you move up (e.g. being a great manager in the championship, but not able to compete in the prem). Brentford and Spurs are both in the same league, for now.
The reality is that Brentford, like other smaller clubs who have risen to the prem and stayed there, are built on great recruitment of underpriced players (moneyball) without superstar egos. The players use the club as a stepping stone to bigger contracts elsewhere, CL footy etc, but are replaced by other good non-superstar options. Managing superstar egos, superstar agents and the expectations of a permanently deluded/permanently defeatist fanbase aren't necessary there. You put out a decent team with decent players and coach them well. If you beat a big team that's a bonus. If you end top half or get to Europe you've performed.
If "the pond" is the club rather than the league then the saying might ...err... hold more water, but I don't think it's the size of the pond that's the issue, but that it's got piranhas in it.
Anyway, aside from that, Spurs played last night, their next game is home to us (Arsenal) in a week and a half. We play tomorrow, and then twice more - three times in all (Brentford a, Wigan h, Wolves a) - between their last match and the game against them, so timing-wise it's a smart move for them. Hopefully not another new manager bounce . Just had Man U, and Wigan have a new man as well.... We're also a bit of a blessing for a new manager - it's a no lose match. Even for the derby v Spurs, nobody actually expects a result against us so expectations are low, and as long as the players run about a bit and look like they "want it" the fans will be fine - while any actual result is a win.
Fergs
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Er… not to be chewing on sour grapes, cos I’m obviously delighted we’re focusing on the league 😉, but I think you might have miscounted the goals scored.
Good luck in the semis!
PaulSB
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I see Forest have sacked Sean Dyche. That's three managers been and gone for them this season. Crazy.
Hopefully someone at Rovers has the balls to ring Dyche and ask him to come here for the rest of the season. We need someone who can sort this bunch out PDQ. It wouldn't be popular but might keep us up.
Hopefully someone at Rovers has the balls to ring Dyche and ask him to come here for the rest of the season. We need someone who can sort this bunch out PDQ. It wouldn't be popular but might keep us up.
PaulSB
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The EFL will be voting on a proposal to extend the Championship Play Off qualifying positions to include 3rd down to 8th.
I feel this is madness. Aside from being even more unfair on the club finishing third it raises the prospect of a potentially ill-equipped squad being promoted to the PL.
To paraphrase an opinion which seems to be widely held amongst fans; play 42 games, each team plays each home and away, the three teams who gain the most points get promoted. Simple.
If this was in place today suppose Rovers somehow sneaked into eighth this season, improbable but mathematically possible, a side that is currently staring down the barrel of relegation could be in the PL next August. Without a complete new squad I seriously believe we would do well to gain ten points. Our current side might not score a goal other than a penalty or outrageous deflection.
I feel this is madness. Aside from being even more unfair on the club finishing third it raises the prospect of a potentially ill-equipped squad being promoted to the PL.
To paraphrase an opinion which seems to be widely held amongst fans; play 42 games, each team plays each home and away, the three teams who gain the most points get promoted. Simple.
If this was in place today suppose Rovers somehow sneaked into eighth this season, improbable but mathematically possible, a side that is currently staring down the barrel of relegation could be in the PL next August. Without a complete new squad I seriously believe we would do well to gain ten points. Our current side might not score a goal other than a penalty or outrageous deflection.
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midlandsgrimpeur
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Everyone says it when a decent manager gets sacked but this one is utterly bonkers. They have only lost 1 in the last six, and out of 25 games Dyche has won 10 and drawn 6 and would have kept them up IMO. Yes, they drew with Wolves but had 30 shots on goal and 63% possession, that is not bad coaching, that is bad players if they can't convert a single chance out of 30! The irony is they are probably now going to get caught by a team managed by the guy the sacked before the one they just sacked! Oh, and it looks like they are going to appoint the guy previously sacked by the club who are and were bottom of the league when he got sacked!
I can only assume this it is pure ego and delusion with these owners. The decisions make no sense because they are completely illogical, it is just egomaniacs thinking that their decisions (no matter how crazy) are correct. I guess when they then sack another Manager, they just delude themselves even further that it was the Manager's fault and nothing to do with their own incompetence.
PaulSB
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Spot on.......still hoping he's at Ewood tomorrow 🤞🤣
Agreed.
Further to that, what manager with any sense will take the job now? A desperate one. Not what any fan wants.
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laurentian
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You are, of course, spot on - my mistake . . . and I watched the game! I blame the unfettered delirium brought about by two consecutive wins . . . not something we've seen of late.
Notts and probably some others have only ever got promoted through play offs when they have finished in the top play off place.
Ref Frank: in any other businesses with eleven key members of staff off sick there would be a strong case for unfair dismissal.
The Forest board are barking, still if they carry on like this is can't be too long before there is a Nottingham derby in the league. Last one was 32 years ago with Notts winning 2-1.
T4tomo
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Question for Forest owner
WHo would the manager you''d turn to if you were in a bit of a relegation scrap, to keep a calm head and get enough points to get you to safety.
Someone also who in his last job would ave had the club mid table were it not for a poor start under the previous manager....
Oh its Sean Dyche!
I do hope Forest get relegated, breach fair play rules, get a points deduction and then relegated to league 1.
midlandsgrimpeur
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This is why I am utterly baffled by it. Usually with a lot of Manager sackings you might think it is too early (and often it probably is!) but there will be some justification i.e. too many bad results or poor performances, lost the fans/players etc. With Dyche, not only is he exactly the type of Manager they needed, but he was also delivering results and they were playing some decent football (and from what I can tell the fans were all happy with him). There isn't a single logical or justifiable reason to have sacked him, it is crazy.
I wouldn't be surprised if the fans turn on the board after this sacking.
