The Football.....

[vickster]

Rosenior would barely have seen out his probation in any other job!

 

[albion]

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sp...l-born-businessman-as-new-joint-owner-7038091

Some Wrexham like undertones there. I consider Gateshead much part of the Newcastle area so I lightly wonder about a rename to 'Greater Newcastle FC' as a way of enlarging fan catchment.
"If those values are part of a Geordie spirit, then you have something special already, and I’m ready to fight side by side with you all for that.”

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

How many managers sacked by Chelsea in recent years have not gone on to other jobs? He's young, if he wants to continue in management he will, and if he succeeds with some club in the future his Chelsea sacking will be forgotten.

True, but they were generally proven managers with major trophies on their cv. Young English Managers at the top level are few and far between and don't tend to go straight back into a prem job. He can only continue in management if he gets an offer. Look at Rooney, he clearly wants another crack but high profile failures have left him untouchable.

 

[Spartak]

Picture from the Norwich 🔰 end last Saturday as the team applaud the fans after a great 4 - 2 victory against Bristol City ... ⚽⚽⚽⚽🎉

 

[Dave7]

Fair point! Having said that, if all you want to do is be a Manager and a failure like that means you never get another top job, it probably doesn't cushion the blow as much as we think it would or should.

I always said (probably like many other people) the Stevie G leaving Rangers on a high to manage Villa was a mistake. Too big, too soon. IMO it severely damaged his career.
I thought the same with Lampard at Coventry but I was wrong about that one.

 

[PaulSB]

Well then. Rovers secured Championship football for next year with what was, by all accounts, an excellent first half to lead 3 - 0 at HT. We then restricted Sheff Utd to a single goal in the second half. I did sneak a look at the score at HT and thought knowing Rovers this could end up 3 - 3 as the Blades had +/- 70% possession.

The next task is to try and keep Michael O'Neil as manager. He's done a great job, the fans love and respect him and he seems to be an all round decent individual - the sort of man I like to manage my club.

I hope Valerian Ismael, a charlatan if ever there was one, has watched this and asked himself some searching questions. A man who shouldn't be near any football club, utterly incompetent.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

I always said (probably like many other people) the Stevie G leaving Rangers on a high to manage Villa was a mistake. Too big, too soon. IMO it severely damaged his career.
I thought the same with Lampard at Coventry but I was wrong about that one.

Yep, I think you are right about Gerrard, and having heard him post management I get the feeling that his heart is not in a return anytime soon. Unfortunately for Rosenior, people have been taking the proverbial out of his manner and management style and this stuff does stick.

 

[ianrauk]

Thing is with Rosenior he wasn't very good in the first place. Before he joined his record at Strasburg was pretty poor. Won none of their past Ligue 1 matches (familiar), 2 wins in 10, and dropped 13 point from winning positions.
I'm not wholly blaming Rosenior, he was out of his depth, the main blame is with the club owners/directors for 'transferring' him over rather the going for a an established top league, proven manager/coach.

 

[midlandsgrimpeur]

Thing is with Rosenior he wasn't very good in the first place. Before he joined his record at Strasburg was pretty poor. Won none of their past Ligue 1 matches (familiar), 2 wins in 10, and dropped 13 point from winning positions.
I'm not wholly blaming Rosenior, he was out of his depth, the main blame is with the club owners/directors for 'transferring' him over rather the going for a an established top league, proven manager/coach.

I think Boely and co are a good example of believing they can apply standard business practices to football i.e. the internal promotion of Rosenior, in the name of 'innovation'. They still don't seem to understand that football has it's own set of rules and if you don't work within them you quickly come unstuck.

 

[T4tomo]

Thing is with Rosenior he wasn't very good in the first place. Before he joined his record at Strasburg was pretty poor. Won none of their past Ligue 1 matches (familiar), 2 wins in 10, and dropped 13 point from winning positions.
I'm not wholly blaming Rosenior, he was out of his depth, the main blame is with the club owners/directors for 'transferring' him over rather the going for a an established top league, proven manager/coach.

and arguably Chelsea's issues, stemming from well before he was appointed, were more serious than things a change of manager was ever going to fix.

 

[ianrauk]

and arguably Chelsea's issues, stemming from well before he was appointed, were more serious than things a change of manager was ever going to fix.

Exactly, as @midlandsgrimpeur pointed out above.

 

[Vapin' Joe]

I think Boely and co are a good example of believing they can apply standard business practices to football i.e. the internal promotion of Rosenior, in the name of 'innovation'. They still don't seem to understand that football has it's own set of rules and if you don't work within them you quickly come unstuck.

In a nutshell. They own a factory and if they install better machines they increase production. They buy a football club and believe that if they buy better players they will improve results, but as countless owners have found over the years, human beings are not machines and it just doesn't work like that.