glenn forger
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Four miles?
Looks like it might have done so for fossy (see Tales of Today's Commute).Does someone riding just behind you actually make it harder then?
Yeah, I know - you meant does is cost anything to be the one in front, which is an interesting question. I think if you would otherwise be just grinding along on your own, then no, although I expect someone will come along with proper figures. I get the feeling though from this and other threads that a lot of people don't like it because it makes them feel unsafe, especially if you're being drafted by someone you don't know and you don't have a mutual understanding about riding together.Nasty story, but that wasn't what I meant.
Touching your rear mech, what a d1ckhead, I occasionally have people sit on my wheel if they say do you mind or are light hearted its fine but if they sit there and say nothing = Nob jockey!Does anyone else suffer from this?
Over the past few weeks I seem to be getting two different cyclists getting on my back wheel and staying there. One is a fairly nice young lad who after talking to him last week now, when given the lift of the right elbow, comes past and takes over and we seem to get home fine. I don't know they guy but he is polite and we say hi and bye when we meet and part. The other older guy in his fourties rides like an idiot. He gets behind me, half wheels me and once touched my rear mech. I have asked politely to pull back or pass without joy so yesterday I had enough and gave him a piece of my mind. He seemed to think I was the one in the wrong...
Anyone else deal with idiots like this. It should be noted we are on the Bristol to Bath Cycle Path and I am trying to get home quickly but safely and give other walkers and riders due care and respect but this guy is a nobber.
Ah, the Zeno's Wheelsucker Paradox, eh?None distance? Not even 50 yards?
Does someone riding just behind you actually make it harder then?
I don't think it does but it really pi**es me off for one, I like the solitude and silence of my bikes not some creaky, squeaky clicking thingy in my hearing range,Does someone riding just behind you actually make it harder then?
We need an expert in aerodynamics.. I'm guessing that the airflow behind the front rider is different depending on whether or not there is another second rider. This might influence the air resistance experienced by the front rider.Well, no. The one at the back works less hard, but that doesn't mean the one at the front has to work any harder. The one at the front is just cutting a hole in the air.
That's cos of the area of low pressure behind a moving object and also the eddy currents in the disturbed air but I wouldn't have expected it to be 5% at the relatively low speeds (sub 50mph) that cycles travel at.We need an expert in aerodynamics.. I'm guessing that the airflow behind the front rider is different depending on whether or not there is another second rider. This might influence the air resistance experienced by the front rider.
Just guessing...
Edit: TMN, that's absolute rubbish! In fact the front rider seems to use 5% less energy if there is somebody behind. Well I never. See here...
http://www.bicyclesource.com/slipstreaming
Ignore them. Or do what I do.........I'm soooooo slow these days that nobody wants to follow me.
Yep, I think I read that.Edit: TMN, that's absolute rubbish! In fact the front rider seems to use 5% less energy if there is somebody behind. Well I never. See here...
http://www.bicyclesource.com/slipstreaming
Touching your rear mech, what a d1ckhead, I occasionally have people sit on my wheel if they say do you mind or are light hearted its fine but if they sit there and say nothing = Nob jockey!
I too would to interested in the above. Also, I will sit on people's wheel if they have decided to pass me and then just plonk themselves right in front on me at only marginally faster than the speed I'm already travelling, this absolutely does my head in.