The League of Gentleman Reunite.

[swansonj]

So where would you draw the line? Surely Roy "Chubby" Brown is a character created by Royston Vasey,

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as much as the inhabitants of the fictional town of Royston Vasey are characters created by Shearsmith, Pemberton, Gatiss and Dyson?

Ooh, goody, this is turning into a serious discussion.

To me, on this issue as on so many (tax avoidance is another one), the key is a person's motivation. If a person is adopting an obnoxious alien persona to explore it or to expose it, that's valid. Actors and authors do it all the time. If the person is adopting an obnoxious persona to entertain people who don't see it as obnoxious, or to be able to say things they don't want to be heard saying in "real life", that is dodgy.

I'm not saying the dividing line is always clear but I do think the principles are (to my way of thinking) fairly clear.

 

[Stephenite]

All of them have been involved with various excellent programmes since, Inside No. 9 was particularly brilliant. I'm pretty confident the specials will be as good as the originals, well hopeful at least!

Blummin typical. Why am i always the last to hear about these things.

 

[NorthernDave]

Series 1 and 2 were comedy gold, series 3 not so much as they were trying to be a bit too clever and Tarantino-esque with the way the threads through each episode all finally tied together getting precedence over the humour.

That said, the live show was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

If they can recapture the spirit of the first two series it will be one of the highlights of Christmas on the box. If not, it will be worth a watch and probably still funnier than the tax avoiders over at Mrs Brown's...

 

[User482]

They won't get far.

Would you say that you're an egregious person?

 

[Beebo]

So where would you draw the line? Surely Roy "Chubby" Brown is a character created by Royston Vasey,

You are correct on one level, just as the pub landlord is a creation of Al Murray, however Al Murray will distance himself from the pub landlords views, and uses his character as a way if shining a light on bigotry.
I dont see chubby brown doing that, but then again, i am not an oracle on his output.

 

[Fnaar]

I wonder if they'll be doing it in the same style as the first two series or the third.

Of if Papa Lazarou will even be in it?

You're my wife now

 

[winjim]

You are correct on one level, just as the pub landlord is a creation of Al Murray, however Al Murray will distance himself from the pub landlords views, and uses his character as a way if shining a light on bigotry.
I dont see chubby brown doing that, but then again, i am not an oracle on his output.

Trouble is, not everyone gets it. It was a bit awkward seeing Garry Bushell in the audience at one of Murray's gigs. I wonder if he got the joke...

Edit: From the biography on Bushell's own website.

He's proud of it!

 

[Profpointy]

Series 1 and 2 were comedy gold, series 3 not so much as they were trying to be a bit too clever and Tarantino-esque with the way the threads through each episode all finally tied together getting precedence over the humour.

That said, the live show was one of the funniest things I have ever seen.

If they can recapture the spirit of the first two series it will be one of the highlights of Christmas on the box. If not, it will be worth a watch and probably still funnier than the tax avoiders over at Mrs Brown's...

On your last point against my better judgement I was pursuaded to watch Mrs Brown's boys christmas special a few years back. I have to say it is a serious contender for being the very worst show I have seen in my entire life. In fact I'm hard pushed to even think of the 2nd worst, they were so far ahead.

 

[Profpointy]

Back to LoG I bought the boxed set a while back and it is crearly genius although quite horrible, and teeters on the edge of, and on occasion well beyond being unwatchable. But what really grated was the truly awful American style canned laughter. It's rather more funny peculiar than funnh ha-ha in any case, but wasn't really laugh out loud funny in any case so the laughter was a distraction. But it was still brilliant, but can I face more of the canned laughter ?

 

[User32269]

Trouble is, not everyone gets it. It was a bit awkward seeing Garry Bushell in the audience at one of Murray's gigs. I wonder if he got the joke...

Warren Mitchell stated that he thought 99% of people laughed at Alf, but said he was ashamed during a live show when his character stated “Adolf Hitler had his moments” and it got a cheer from people in the audience. Can be a fine line.

 

[Profpointy]

Warren Mitchell stated that he thought 99% of people laughed at Alf, but said he was ashamed during a live show when his character stated “Adolf Hitler had his moments” and it got a cheer from people in the audience. Can be a fine line.

Alf Garnet is of course a brilliant comic character, but he's the only leading character I can think of who has no redeeming virtues whatsoever. Mainwaring is pompous and selfish, yet brave and trying his best. Falstaff is a rogue, yet is charming and witty, both Steptoes are doing their best, but Alf is just awfull - but very funny

 

[User32269]

Alan Partridge?

 

[jefmcg]

Rigsby

And the entire cast of Seinfeld.

 

[Profpointy]

Rigsby.

Rigsby's not a bad or nasty man though. He's just a sad and rather lost character

 

[jefmcg]

So where would you draw the line? Surely Roy "Chubby" Brown is a character created by Royston Vasey,

So you are saying he created a character that thinks the one of the tenets of Islam is reincarnation? I don't believe that. I'm sure Royston also thought that was true.

Les Murray is billed as playing "The Pub Landlord". Warren Mitchell ditto for "Alf Garnett". Royston Vasey is not credited as the creator of Brown, in fact his name is nearly a secret. Note that wikipedia has Roy Brown as a person, not a character, who was born Vasey. I know most of his fans are too old to use a computer, but you think one of them would have corrected it. Indeed, he does not resile from it, staring with "my name is Roy" but signing off "Chubbs"

God, why do I now know so much about him?????