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tyred said:
Yes, Webber's having a very good season. Make or break time and good luck to him.
Vettel is a very good driver. He's good in every area, his only flaw is he isn't hungry enough sometimes but he's still youngish.
I'd rather have the red bull pairing than anything but the McLaren pairing. Don't worry Lukesdad, red bull will win the constructors, McLaren always mess up/miss out, just
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Debian
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Why are there so many logical inconsistencies in F1, and indeed in motorsport generally?
Why, for example, do race tracks have "kerbs" that everyone drives over? Why are they not just part of the track?
Ditto chicanes - why make them so that they can be bypassed? If you miss the chicane line your car should be damaged when you hit a kerb or whatever.
Why the huge gravel traps?
Why all the safety gear for the drivers?
Make it so that you have to race, and actually drive on the track, not over the kerbs / through the chicanes.
Make it so that if you leave the track you hit something and damage your car.
Let's have sensible and proper racing where driver skill, and not huge runoff areas make the difference.
Why, for example, do race tracks have "kerbs" that everyone drives over? Why are they not just part of the track?
Ditto chicanes - why make them so that they can be bypassed? If you miss the chicane line your car should be damaged when you hit a kerb or whatever.
Why the huge gravel traps?
Why all the safety gear for the drivers?
Make it so that you have to race, and actually drive on the track, not over the kerbs / through the chicanes.
Make it so that if you leave the track you hit something and damage your car.
Let's have sensible and proper racing where driver skill, and not huge runoff areas make the difference.
Debian
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Norm said:There is plenty of racing like that, Debian, but it doesn't have the money to get onto TV.
Yes, but why doesn't F1 play by those rules? They sort of do in Monaco.
But why? Why the driveable kerbs and chicanes in particular, I've always wondered. If you can drive over the kerbs then why call them kerbs? Why not just either make the kerbs no-go areas or part of the track?
mr_cellophane
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Debian said:
Or some cyclists for them to show how to pass one properly.
darkstar
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Are you seriously questioning the safety gear F1 drivers wear? Like the flame proof suit etc? You must be able to work that one out for yourself, considering the lack of fatalities in F1 since Senna in 1994, the same year as Ratzenberger. The safety conditions were dreadful back then, even a minor crash could result in a broken nose and arm (like Barrichello's crash at the same race a the previous 2 fatalities ) Senna was determined to improve the safety standards and set up the Drivers’ Safety group. It's no coincidence there have been no deaths since then.Debian said:
Funny that you complain about the run offs etc around the time on the Canadian GP, famous for it's close barriers and numerous crashes.
darkstar said:
His points are more subtle than that and I agree with them, what is more you know very well that people have been saying these sorts of things for a couple of years now. I don't think anybody is arguing about going back to the sort of imagery conjured up with the days of the legend and the crash at the Nurburgring.
Debian
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darkstar said:
A disingenuous post and not what I meant, as you well know. Or maybe subtlety escapes you?
marinyork said:
+1
darkstar
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Yeh OK i knew what you meant, though enjoy ranting on these boards. But seriously, the kerbs are there ini order to provide the drivers with something to am for, they did increase the height of them in Monaco last year though, to attempt to stop them taking advantage of it. I did find your post to come at a strange time, the Canadian GP is one of my favorite races, very exciting and technically skilled.Debian said:
Great 1-2 for McLaren yesterday, great race!
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i think it's quite ironic that webber moans about kovalainen moving across the track when he is one of the worst for weaving, especially at the starts. it was completely his own fault, he can be quite reckless, like the aurtralian grand prix when he drove up the back of hamilton a few laps from the end.
this idea of 'letting the faster cars through' is a nonsense. if they are not being lapped, slower cars have every right to fight for position.
this idea of 'letting the faster cars through' is a nonsense. if they are not being lapped, slower cars have every right to fight for position.
I couldn't believe the arrogance of DC maintaining that the slow cars should let the faster ones past. Why should they? It's called racing and it was Webber himslef who was sleeping at the start and allowed himself to be shuffled out of position and down the field. If he'd been driving a good, clean race, he would not have been in that position.
I remember DC's attempt at letting a faster car past in Belgium in '98.
The other thing which stood out for me in that race was what idiot at Merc decided to bring Schumacher in for a tyre change when the pitlane was closed and he ended up having to wait until everyone else went past? He was doing quite well up until that.
I remember DC's attempt at letting a faster car past in Belgium in '98.
The other thing which stood out for me in that race was what idiot at Merc decided to bring Schumacher in for a tyre change when the pitlane was closed and he ended up having to wait until everyone else went past? He was doing quite well up until that.
