The plane enthusiasts thread

[ebikeerwidnes]

More on Bader

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...itain-poster-boy-kept-flying-losing-legs.html

My Dad was injured in the war (RAF Ground Crew) and had serious spinal injures
didn;t leave hospital until 1947

Hence he knew quite a few badly injured ex RAF and other military people

a fair number of them were c**** - although that was never the word my Dad would have used

one lived near us and was rather well known - I won;t say more as it might identify him
my Dad told me that he would always seem a very pleasent person if he thought you could be helpful to him or if he needed you to create a good image to others
other than that he treated people as garbage and was generally a very nasty person

in some cases that was simply how they dealt with the trauma of their injuries and the resultant changes to their life

in some cases they were just generally nasty people and their injuries gave them an excuse


apparently the officers were the worst

and I did hear that Bader was one of those

 

[raleighnut]

My Dad was injured in the war (RAF Ground Crew) and had serious spinal injures
didn;t leave hospital until 1947

Hence he knew quite a few badly injured ex RAF and other military people

a fair number of them were c**** - although that was never the word my Dad would have used

one lived near us and was rather well known - I won;t say more as it might identify him
my Dad told me that he would always seem a very pleasent person if he thought you could be helpful to him or if he needed you to create a good image to others
other than that he treated people as garbage and was generally a very nasty person

in some cases that was simply how they dealt with the trauma of their injuries and the resultant changes to their life

in some cases they were just generally nasty people and their injuries gave them an excuse


apparently the officers were the worst

and I did hear that Bader was one of those

Bader was selfish and arrogant before his accident, rugger playing team mates reckoned he was very selfish with the ball. Thing was he was very driven to be the best he could be.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

one lived near us and was rather well known - I won;t say more as it might identify him

Most of them will be long dead, so what harm it do naming him now?

 

[gbb]

My Dad was injured in the war (RAF Ground Crew) and had serious spinal injures
didn;t leave hospital until 1947

Hence he knew quite a few badly injured ex RAF and other military people

a fair number of them were c**** - although that was never the word my Dad would have used

one lived near us and was rather well known - I won;t say more as it might identify him
my Dad told me that he would always seem a very pleasent person if he thought you could be helpful to him or if he needed you to create a good image to others
other than that he treated people as garbage and was generally a very nasty person

in some cases that was simply how they dealt with the trauma of their injuries and the resultant changes to their life

in some cases they were just generally nasty people and their injuries gave them an excuse


apparently the officers were the worst

and I did hear that Bader was one of those

While there's a'holes in every sector of society, you wonder if the stress and strain of war made people worse than they might have been otherwise.
Probably told this before but late 70s I worked with a former Lancaster tail gunner...the most taciturn, morose, miserable git I ever met...and an alcoholic to boot.
I actually liked him, you just needed time with him to even begin to understand what these guys had been through...although perhaps he only liked me because I'd get him a 4 pack of beers while I was out in the van

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

While there's a'holes in every sector of society, you wonder if the stress and strain of war made people worse than they might have been otherwise.
Probably told this before but late 70s I worked with a former Lancaster tail gunner...the most taciturn, morose, miserable git I ever met...and an alcoholic to boot.
I actually liked him, you just needed time with him to even begin to understand what these guys had been through...although perhaps he only liked me because I'd get him a 4 pack of beers while I was out in the van

Tail gunner was a risky job - and critical

as an armourer my Dad's job was to be the first person to enter the aircraft after any injured crew left followed by the uninjured

bodies were left until the Armourer has taken away anything bangy

as a result they were the first ones to enter a rear turret that had been shot up

apparently explosive and tracer bullets - as well as shrapnel from anti aircraft fire can make quite a mess of a body

he only mentioned it once then changed the subject

The other tail gunners would have known this
and went up again anyway

like a lot of other people

not sure I would have been able to do that

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Thursday 15th
Circa 12:30?

Allerton Park
(just east of) jct 47/A1 (where the A59 intersects it)
Knaresborough
North Yorkshire

A low (or what seemed quite so) flying Eurofighter, heading south-east

 

[gbb]

Sat in the garden...ooh, a military sounding cargo plane...doesn't sound anything like a Airbus A400M, jump up (sad git) to see two in line, headed east...at fair altitude

Zoom in, look like C130 Super Hercules

Lo and behold, a couple minutes later, same altitude'ish, same flightpath, a USAF Boeing 767

Used to see Hercules all the time years ago, low, a regular flight path east to West, often in pairs, just a few miles away. Havnt seen a single C130 for ages...then two come along

 

[classic33]

USAF seem busy tonight. Three V-22's overflew, below 2,000 feet, this being one of them. Landing at Fairford.

Not my picture by the way

 

[classic33]

Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF) Schedule 2025

 

[DaveReading]

Battle of Britain Memorial Flight (BBMF) Schedule 2025

There is speculation (AFAIK not yet confirmed) that the Spitfire and Hurricane will no longer be seen over large conurbations.

 

[Bristolian]

There is speculation (AFAIK not yet confirmed) that the Spitfire and Hurricane will no longer be seen over large conurbations.

I have read that somewhere too, and they were noticeably missing from the VE Day flypast

 

[Conrad_K]

USAF seem busy tonight. Three V-22's overflew, below 2,000 feet, this being one of them. Landing at Fairford.
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Three of them in the air at the same time is amazing. The V-22 is a maintenance nightmare with no real reason to exist, given the handful of helicopters the USAF operates are all far superior aircraft.

 

[classic33]

Three of them in the air at the same time is amazing. The V-22 is a maintenance nightmare with no real reason to exist, given the handful of helicopters the USAF operates are all far superior aircraft.

The same three came back the following morning. At less than a 1,000 feet above ground level, at 5:44 am the following morning.

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/the-retirement-thread.216598/post-7417266

 

[Conrad_K]

Used to see Hercules all the time years ago, low, a regular flight path east to West, often in pairs, just a few miles away. Havnt seen a single C130 for ages...then two come along

They're common here, but I live just a few miles from a major C-130 training base.

There is a commercial version of the 130, the L-100, usually configured as a passenger aircraft. There's a Canadian variant with two engines instead of four. There are also the various 130-based gunships, currently the C-130K Ghostrider.

 

[DaveReading]

There is a commercial version of the 130, the L-100, usually configured as a passenger aircraft. There's a Canadian variant with two engines instead of four.

Well there was a proposal in the late 1970s for a twin-engined Hercules (the L-400).

But nothing ever came of it and no Hercules twin has ever been built.