The plane enthusiasts thread

[classic33]

Shoreham was the final nail.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Shoreham was the final nail.

If that's the one where the Hunter crashed into traffic, I thought that was a complete accident and not really predictable?
Are they now going to go to ridiculous lengths and have planes only flying in certain 'sealed' zones now?

And will they enforce such rules when it's not an air show?
No, how can they?
Oh and what about places like Heathrow?
I'd say places like that are...


Well, anyway.

 

[figbat]

If that's the one where the Hunter crashed into traffic, I thought that was a complete accident and not really predictable?.

Not an accident. Negligent flying by an unremorseful, risk-taking pilot who had made similar mistakes before but got away with it.

 

[DaveReading]

If that's the one where the Hunter crashed into traffic, I thought that was a complete accident and not really predictable?
Are they now going to go to ridiculous lengths and have planes only flying in certain 'sealed' zones now?

The changes introduced after Shoreham include:

increased minimum altitude at which ex-military jets can perform aerobatic manoeuvres
increased minimum distance between a civil display and the crowd
greater requirements for post-display reports to improve the quality of feedback on safety
enhanced risk assessments and tougher checks on the experience, skill and health of pilots

At least two of those would almost certainly have prevented the Shoreham disaster.

 

[Badger_Boom]

Sat in the garden...ooh, a military sounding cargo plane...doesn't sound anything like a Airbus A400M, jump up (sad git) to see two in line, headed east...at fair altitude
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Zoom in, look like C130 Super Hercules

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Lo and behold, a couple minutes later, same altitude'ish, same flightpath, a USAF Boeing 767
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Used to see Hercules all the time years ago, low, a regular flight path east to West, often in pairs, just a few miles away. Havnt seen a single C130 for ages...then two come along

We (in York) regularly get a pair of USAF Hercules overflying at around 2200 on week nights. If they're showing on one of the ADSB sites they've usually come from Mildenhall, and they then take a route up towards the border near Galloway before returning back by the same route. I assume it's night avigation training of some sort.

 

[Badger_Boom]

Not an accident. Negligent flying by an unremorseful, risk-taking pilot who had made similar mistakes before but got away with it.

The chap whose successful defence rested on him having an unpredictable medical condition that had caused him to lose consciousness, and who recently tried to sue the licensing authority because they wont pass him fit to fly because of his self-declared medical condition.

 

[gbb]

A fleeting glimpse of PA474 Lancaster as she banked over a local annual fete, tried a very quick photo but she disappeared and went on toward London I'd guess.

Shortly after, two Typhoons, not particularly fast, about 3 or 4 miles away at just a few thousand feet I'd guess

 

[DaveReading]

A fleeting glimpse of PA474 Lancaster as she banked over a local annual fete, tried a very quick photo but she disappeared and went on toward London I'd guess.

Shortly after, two Typhoons, not particularly fast, about 3 or 4 miles away at just a few thousand feet I'd guess

Missed the Lanc here - could hear it about a mile to the east, but not visible below the trees.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Last week, we saw a couple of Eurofighters, as we were up in the Dales,


Plus, daughters b/f studied (can't remember exactly how he phrased it, but) 'Aeronautical Engineering' at University, so I had to point this out, as we drove back from York, along the A64, on Monday evening
(I might even have featured it myself, earlier in this thread?)

https://www.westernfrontassociation...raf-hangar-and-the-story-of-rfc-bramham-moor/