The plane enthusiasts thread

[classic33]

Shoreham was the final nail.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

Shoreham was the final nail.

If that's the one where the Hunter crashed into traffic, I thought that was a complete accident and not really predictable?
Are they now going to go to ridiculous lengths and have planes only flying in certain 'sealed' zones now?

And will they enforce such rules when it's not an air show?
No, how can they?
Oh and what about places like Heathrow?
I'd say places like that are...


Well, anyway.

 

[figbat]

If that's the one where the Hunter crashed into traffic, I thought that was a complete accident and not really predictable?.

Not an accident. Negligent flying by an unremorseful, risk-taking pilot who had made similar mistakes before but got away with it.

 

[DaveReading]

If that's the one where the Hunter crashed into traffic, I thought that was a complete accident and not really predictable?
Are they now going to go to ridiculous lengths and have planes only flying in certain 'sealed' zones now?

The changes introduced after Shoreham include:

increased minimum altitude at which ex-military jets can perform aerobatic manoeuvres
increased minimum distance between a civil display and the crowd
greater requirements for post-display reports to improve the quality of feedback on safety
enhanced risk assessments and tougher checks on the experience, skill and health of pilots

At least two of those would almost certainly have prevented the Shoreham disaster.

 

[Badger_Boom]

Sat in the garden...ooh, a military sounding cargo plane...doesn't sound anything like a Airbus A400M, jump up (sad git) to see two in line, headed east...at fair altitude
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Zoom in, look like C130 Super Hercules

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Lo and behold, a couple minutes later, same altitude'ish, same flightpath, a USAF Boeing 767
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Used to see Hercules all the time years ago, low, a regular flight path east to West, often in pairs, just a few miles away. Havnt seen a single C130 for ages...then two come along

We (in York) regularly get a pair of USAF Hercules overflying at around 2200 on week nights. If they're showing on one of the ADSB sites they've usually come from Mildenhall, and they then take a route up towards the border near Galloway before returning back by the same route. I assume it's night avigation training of some sort.

 

[Badger_Boom]

Not an accident. Negligent flying by an unremorseful, risk-taking pilot who had made similar mistakes before but got away with it.

The chap whose successful defence rested on him having an unpredictable medical condition that had caused him to lose consciousness, and who recently tried to sue the licensing authority because they wont pass him fit to fly because of his self-declared medical condition.

 

[gbb]

A fleeting glimpse of PA474 Lancaster as she banked over a local annual fete, tried a very quick photo but she disappeared and went on toward London I'd guess.

Shortly after, two Typhoons, not particularly fast, about 3 or 4 miles away at just a few thousand feet I'd guess

 

[DaveReading]

A fleeting glimpse of PA474 Lancaster as she banked over a local annual fete, tried a very quick photo but she disappeared and went on toward London I'd guess.

Shortly after, two Typhoons, not particularly fast, about 3 or 4 miles away at just a few thousand feet I'd guess

Missed the Lanc here - could hear it about a mile to the east, but not visible below the trees.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Last week, we saw a couple of Eurofighters, as we were up in the Dales,


Plus, daughters b/f studied (can't remember exactly how he phrased it, but) 'Aeronautical Engineering' at University, so I had to point this out, as we drove back from York, along the A64, on Monday evening
(I might even have featured it myself, earlier in this thread?)

https://www.westernfrontassociation...raf-hangar-and-the-story-of-rfc-bramham-moor/

 

[gbb]

Unmistakable Merlins ..a Hurricane yesterday and a Spitfire just now visible from Peterborough, both out of Duxford.
The Spitfire was one of those two cockpit abominations. I get why, it just looks so wrong.

 

[figbat]

Unmistakable Merlins ..a Hurricane yesterday and a Spitfire just now visible from Peterborough, both out of Duxford.
The Spitfire was one of those two cockpit abominations. I get why, it just looks so wrong.

There’s a two-seat Hurricane about that looks a lot better - they just extended the existing cockpit and canopy rather than adding a dorsal blister like the Spitfire.

I’d give several important body parts to have a go in either type.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

I’d give several important body parts to have a go in either type.

For me, Concorde or the Vulcan, not to mention several other types, but seeing as none are now flying, it's kinda' a moot point.

 

[gbb]

For me, Concorde or the Vulcan, not to mention several other types, but seeing as none are now flying, it's kinda' a moot point.

Dad worked on Vulcans in the late 60s early 70s. He never flew in them of course, HATED flying with a capital H but imagine working on an airfield with those thundering round everyday...no wonder.mum used to say he virtually ran out the door to get to work (yes yes, he loved his work, not hated mum )

Now his twin brother was crew chief on Vulcans, he recalled being in one once on a low level attack run. It was so low the buffeting in the aircraft physically scared him .

Most of us have never lived in reality..(shakes head in admiration )

 

[figbat]

For me, Concorde or the Vulcan, not to mention several other types, but seeing as none are now flying, it's kinda' a moot point.

I’d love to see (and hear) either fly again and a ride would be awesome. But I’d like to actually FLY a Spitfire. It has been a desire since childhood - at the time it was not possible without qualifying as a pilot and then getting your hands on a Spitfire. Now, of course, it’s a simple matter of handing over several thousand pounds.

 

[Mad Doug Biker]

To be honest, I'd just be happy with flying a glider, never mind anything else.