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Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
In relative terms I always found 144s to be superior to 142s, not that is saying much and the centre car of a 3 car ones was the one to go for given such a choice.
Only ever used a handful of 143s and there was something about them which did not seem right (numbers of axles excepted)
In terms of Pacers overall the 141s can be best said to have had a bit more character; if only the RTC at Derby had not had the idea of sticking a Leyland National on a MGR wagon chassis.
 
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In relative terms I always found 144s to be superior to 142s, not that is saying much and the centre car of a 3 car ones was the one to go for given such a choice.
Only ever used a handful of 143s and there was something about them which did not seem right (numbers of axles excepted)
In terms of Pacers overall the 141s can be best says to have a bit more character; if o
the RTC at Derby had not had the idea of sticking a Leyland National on a MGR wagon chassis.

It was the method of getting passengers off the train quickly at rush hour that convinced them, apparently.
 

Jameshow

Veteran
In relative terms I always found 144s to be superior to 142s, not that is saying much and the centre car of a 3 car ones was the one to go for given such a choice.
Only ever used a handful of 143s and there was something about them which did not seem right (numbers of axles excepted)
In terms of Pacers overall the 141s can be best says to have a bit more character; if o
the RTC at Derby had not had the idea of sticking a Leyland National on a MGR wagon chassis.

Awful trains especially on old bolted tracks like settle to Lancaster!!
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Read a story from 1951 which with today's media and info I doubt would have occurred. Passenger trains between Pateley Bridge and Harrogate were operated from the Pateley end. With the last day of operation approaching a local enthusiast wrote to BR asking if the last train would run back to Harrogate (as the loco coaches would no longer be needed at Pateley) and if so could he buy a ticket. He got a positive response and duly a single ticket arrived. On the day he arrived at Harrogate station and on asking for a single was advised a cheap day return was cheaper so he now had two tickets for the return. On arrival at Pateley he made his way to the platform end to photo the loco running round completely unaware it was a push pull set and what he got instead was the train setting off back to Harrogate for the final time !
 
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Jameshow

Veteran
Read a story from 1951 which with today's media and info I doubt would have occurred. Passenger trains between Plateley Bridge and Harrogate were operated from the Plateley end. With the last day of operation approaching a local enthusiast wrote to BR asking if the last train would run back to Harrogate (as the loco coaches would no longer be needed at Plateley) and if so could he buy a ticket. He got a positive response and duly a single ticket arrived. On the day he arrived at Harrogate station and on asking for a single was advised a cheap day return was cheaper so he now had two tickets for the return. On arrival at Pateley he made his way to the platform end to photo the loco running round completely unaware it was a push pull set and what he got instead was the train setting off back to Harrogate for the final time !

Long walk?!
 

Mike_P

Guru
Location
Harrogate
Long walk?!

Regular bus service, that still runs, hence the relative early closure of the line to passengers. Lasted until 1964 for freight after which it was talked about being turned into a cycleway but only a short section has ever occurred which forms part of the Nidderdale Greenway. The final freight train was worked by the now preserved J27 65894.
 
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Hey I've nearly been there! Thats on the Border Counties Railway which connected to the Waverley Route from Hexham. This is Deadwater station which is the next stop South East on the line, you can cycle there from Kielder Forest though its not a long trip but it is a pretty one.

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A few yards north at the Scottish border
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I sometimes wish I had a webcam on my windowsill: yesterday a beautifully restored pair of East German locomotives, a D100 and E11, came past on a very mixed northbound engineers train. They went south on Wednesday so presumably whatever was wrong was sorted out.

Things are getting bunged up now: there's a BLS (Bern Lötschberg Simplon) Railway hauled container train sitting outside the workshop.
 

robjh

Legendary Member
I sometimes wish I had a webcam on my windowsill: yesterday a beautifully restored pair of East German locomotives, a D100 and E11, came past on a very mixed northbound engineers train. They went south on Wednesday so presumably whatever was wrong was sorted out.

Things are getting bunged up now: there's a BLS (Bern Lötschberg Simplon) Railway hauled container train sitting outside the workshop.

By restored do you mean heritage/museum stock, or restored to normal service? Sounds like an odd pairing for double heading, or do you mean they were being hauled?
(Sorry for so many questions but I'm trying to imagine it, wish I'd seen it!).
 
By restored do you mean heritage/museum stock, or restored to normal service? Sounds like an odd pairing for double heading, or do you mean they were being hauled?
(Sorry for so many questions but I'm trying to imagine it, wish I'd seen it!).

They were at least cosmetically restored to their DR condition, although I suspect the innards of the V100 at least will be heavily modernised. They were working on an engineers train though, not a special, so they're probably regular spot hire locomotives.

V100s were a very common small freight locomotive (think class 20/25) and are now popular among small operators or hire companies, probably because there were so many available in 1993 onwards. Another V100 passes up to twice a day on a short trip freight of wood wagons; empties northbound at about 9 and southbound loaded around midday. This one is clearly modernised inside and out with new windows and a completely different paint job. I expect it's used on short term leases as well.

The v100/E11 combo appeared to be working in multiple, the V100 was at the front but the E11 had a pantograph up. Germany seems to hook almost anything together so combinations like this while unusual are not unheard of.
 
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Monday 6th

Whilst up in Cumbria for a ‘long weekend’, we had a trip over Wrynose Pass, & Hardknott Pass, returning past Dalegarth Station, the inland terminus of the ‘Ravensglass & Eskdale Railway’ en-route to Wast Water
It was still closed though


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https://ravenglass-railway.co.uk/

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1337431
 
Tuesday 7th

Whilst up in Cumbria for a ‘long weekend’, l took them to Bassenthwaite Station Cafe
Dubwath
The present A66 occupies a lot of the former track-bed of this line, constructed/opened by the Cockermouth, Keswick & Penrith Railway

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https://www.basslakestation.co.uk
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/bassenthwaite_lake/index.shtml
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-58014752

The story is here; http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/bassenthwaite_lake/index8.html
https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/7246781

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/7197401

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This page, for locomotive information;
http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/b/bassenthwaite_lake/index8.html
 
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Monday 6th

Whilst up in Cumbria for a ‘long weekend’, we had a trip over Wrynose Pass, & Hardknott Pass, returning past Dalegarth Station, the inland terminus of the ‘Ravensglass & Eskdale Railway’ en-route to Wast Water
It was still closed though


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https://ravenglass-railway.co.uk/

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1337431

I rode that a few years back after a long gap from my previous visit, its very pretty and so long as its dry best experienced in an outside carriage. There's a campsite further towards the Eskdale end, the train used to stop there if requested.

Unfortunately the last journey was one way as the train broke at the Eskdale end, the staff were great though and ferried people back in their own cars!
 
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