The responsibilities of a taxi driver

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MrHappyCyclist

Riding the Devil's HIghway
Location
Bolton, England
Well done Matthew. You handled this whole thing very well and I think the result is pleasing. Each result like this is another small contribution to achieving the kind of culture change we need on the roads; we just have to keep chipping away..
 

campbellab

Senior Member
Location
Swindon
When the driver mentioned about Marsh road, the inspector said that he has seen the whole video (including before marsh road) and the driver was nowhere to be seen. Apparently the guys face dropped :ohmy:.

Brilliant :smile:
 

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
Yes, it is scary. I get shouted at by people in cars, mostly when I commute at night. Driver and passenger were out of order towards Matt, no doubt here.
Nevertheless I sense a "want to be like the big London boys, show them cyclist have a right to be on the road".
It seems Jaz now has also armed himself with a cam!
Well, boys, we do not live in London and you do not have the experience of the London cam-cyclists.
Matt and Jaz, when there is only a few cyclist about in town, it is easy for somebody, their friends or family to get you back for an alleged slight on the roads. It could lead to :B)
Matt, didn't recently family of a truck driver you uploaded a video of track you to cycle chat?
You say you don't tell your parents half of what happens on the bike, or they would stop you cycling. So you do realize you are pushing it a wee bit at times ;) (not in this instance, of course)
The bottom line of my post is, I guess, caution out there!
@BentMickey : you and the London you tube uploaders are a role model for the young ones on this forum: stress about safety before confrontation ... please? :girl:
The little girl tracking the video down is hardly hard to be frank. Type the plate into Google the video will show up. Then you can find the video in this forums posts as it would be indexed by Google or even more simple... goodle cycling forums and have a look at its contents.
 
Whilst on a technical level I think you could argue the two course of conduct with the inspector.... on the whole the situation has been dealt with in a very common sense way, and personally, I'd be happy.

As for the taxi driver lying to the police about your actions - if he's done it to try and make a complaint about your (made up) actions, then it's a plain simple case of pervert the course of justice, that under the Home Office Counting Rules should be recorded as such. Yes he could get arrested, yes he could go to court - straight to Crown Court too for that offence - and yes, he could be in serious trouble.

Again, sounds like a 'common sense' approach has been taken and he's been warned instead. I'm less sure on this one - my personal feelings is that someone who lies to the police about a fictionary offence should be dealt with a little more robustly, but hey. I doubt they've recorded it correctly though!

For the harassment side, I think it's a good and sensible result for Matthew.
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
For the harassment side, I think it's a good and sensible result for Matthew.
I am happy with it. I will just have to wait and see what the council do. The guy assured me that the driver is known to them and that it is very likely he will loose his license.
I just hope that he doesnt come after me in retaliation.
 
I am happy with it. I will just have to wait and see what the council do. The guy assured me that the driver is known to them and that it is very likely he will loose his license.
I just hope that he doesnt come after me in retaliation.

If he does, you have your camera, you have your coastal path escape route, and hopefully a mobile phone, and he'll likely lose his freedom as well as his licence. If no one acted for fear of 'what they might do', everyone could do what they wanted with impunity.

Most likely next time he sees you he'll turn the other way - because of your actions you may have made a difference to his, be that because he no longer drives taxis, or just that he considers his actions more seriously when he does. Feel proud, not worried! :thumbsup:
 

Cycling Dan

Cycle Crazy
I have to disagree.

The evidence seems to suggest he harrassed and someone filmed the harrassment of Matthew to "get their own back" on the fact he had posted films of perceived bad driving.

Regardless of whether Matthew has posted stuff in the past that was over the top, the taxi driver's video was pre-meditated and completely indefensible.

I can't believe people are trying to excuse him by saying he was only trying to impress the lady doing the filming or are worrying about him losing his livelihood.

He is a professional driver of the public on public roads and I'm sure he'll come up with all kinds of excuses, from "a bigger girl made me do it" - to "I have a family of 16 to feed" etc etc.

The fact is he has shown he is not fit to do the job he's paid for and should seek employment elsewhere, away from somewhere where he puts peoples' lives at risk.
That fact of thinking he was doing it for his lady friend was a mear though of why! It in no way reduced the severity of the situation. If a husband kills his wife because she didn't do something he wanted. The fact we want to know why he did it does not limit the the thing he did. )hope that came across clear)
 

jarlrmai

Veteran
Yes, it is scary. I get shouted at by people in cars, mostly when I commute at night. Driver and passenger were out of order towards Matt, no doubt here.
Nevertheless I sense a "want to be like the big London boys, show them cyclist have a right to be on the road".
It seems Jaz now has also armed himself with a cam!
Well, boys, we do not live in London and you do not have the experience of the London cam-cyclists.
Matt and Jaz, when there is only a few cyclist about in town, it is easy for somebody, their friends or family to get you back for an alleged slight on the roads. It could lead to :B)
Matt, didn't recently family of a truck driver you uploaded a video of track you to cycle chat?
You say you don't tell your parents half of what happens on the bike, or they would stop you cycling. So you do realize you are pushing it a wee bit at times ;) (not in this instance, of course)
The bottom line of my post is, I guess, caution out there!
@BentMickey : you and the London you tube uploaders are a role model for the young ones on this forum: stress about safety before confrontation ... please? :girl:

This is why I don't confront anymore (new years resolution) I'm too recognisable and do the same route at the same time on the same bike everyday, I will go "whoa" if someone genuinely scares me with a close pass but I won't engage even if they try to start it (had one of those tonight I just kept on riding) I've uploaded a few to youtube with no identifiable searchable data, mainly to show other people if requested.

Too many scary nut-cases out there, in a big city you have anonymity amongst the other cyclists (unless you are like Mikey and ride a crazy death trap :tongue:) if someone wanted to find me again all theyd have to do is drive the same road at the same time the next day.
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
If he does, you have your camera, you have your coastal path escape route, and hopefully a mobile phone, and he'll likely lose his freedom as well as his licence. If no one acted for fear of 'what they might do', everyone could do what they wanted with impunity.

Most likely next time he sees you he'll turn the other way - because of your actions you may have made a difference to his, be that because he no longer drives taxis, or just that he considers his actions more seriously when he does. Feel proud, not worried! :thumbsup:
What would constitute a second time of approach? Would a close pass, or purposeful cut up be enough? Or would he have to actually speak to me?
 

jarlrmai

Veteran
I guess the police would review the video, I think anything that had intent would do.

This whole incident has me thinking about how important helmet cams are.

Stay safe man.
 
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Matthew_T

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
This is why I don't confront anymore (new years resolution) I'm too recognisable and do the same route at the same time on the same bike everyday, I will go "whoa" if someone genuinely scares me with a close pass but I won't engage even if they try to start it (had one of those tonight I just kept on riding) I've uploaded a few to youtube with no identifiable searchable data, mainly to show other people if requested.

Too many scary nut-cases out there, in a big city you have anonymity amongst the other cyclists (unless you are like Mikey and ride a crazy death trap :tongue:) if someone wanted to find me again all theyd have to do is drive the same road at the same time the next day.
Thats why I am trying to vary my route. I ride along the traffic free prom most of the time (due to wind) but like to ride on the roads in the summer and with a tailwind behind me because I like the feeling of keeping up with the cars (and getting KOM's!). I rarely go out at exactly the same time everyday and it was just chance (and a VERY SLIM one) that I happened to cross this guy on the next day.

BTW, could the mastermind of the forums please work out what the chances are that I would meet the same guy the next day at a different time?
 
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