The responsibilities of a taxi driver

[BentMikey]

PK99, please, I think it's time to return to being excellent to Matthew. That line of posting is not.

 

[400bhp]

It's fine. You helmet cammers are toughened up to take the rough with the smooth.

 

[fossyant]

Key words to use when reporting are that you did feel threatened, the police officers will usually help you use the correct terminology when filing in a statement, if it comes to that. By looking at the route you took, you were trying to get away from him, as the route wasn't a logical A to B route, that the driver would have taken.

 

[Mushroomgodmat]

I think it's too late. It's been reposted by one guy already, and several people here have copies People seem to forget once it's posted on the internet they loose control/ownership.

It vanished from the posters account between 13:30 and 13:45.

Well, you can certainly loose control, but not ownership...

But anyway, back on subject..

I think this video particularly worrying and iv seen as many YouTube cam vids as the next cyclist.

What worries me most is the drivers confidence that he's in the right....and he's not! And he's a professional driver FFs...oh...and he seems willing to prove a point...very nasty stuff

 

[PK99]

PK99, please, I think it's time to return to being excellent to Matthew. That line of posting is not.

Sorry, but i think it is being excellent to Matthew. He is exactly the same age as my daughter (19 on saturday) and the advice I am giving him is the same as I give her: Claim your space in the world but be careful. Not everyone is as nice as you are and sometimes the world will bite back at you. Treat other people as you would like them to treat you.

 

[BentMikey]

It's fine. You helmet cammers are toughened up to take the rough with the smooth.

Are we though? In reality we're not men and women of extraordinary phlegm, we're not the Vikes, Dragos and CopperCyclists of the world, we're just ordinary people. Why should we have to take rough behaviour, either on here or in real life?

Sorry, but i think it is being excellent to Matthew. He is exactly the same age as my daughter (19 on saturday) and the advice I am giving him is the same as I give her: Claim your space in the world but be careful. Not everyone is as nice as you are and sometimes the world will bite back at you. Treat other people as you would like them to treat you.

Well, I don't see it the way you imply here. I think there's a significant lack of excellence in the way you're treating Matthew. I perceive your posts as much more along the lines of pushy, aggressive, and rather unkind. Sorry, I don't mean to offend you, and I hope you'll take my comments in the spirit in which I intend them.

 

[PK99]

Well, I don't see it the way you imply here. I think there's a significant lack of excellence in the way you're treating Matthew. I perceive your posts as much more along the lines of pushy, aggressive, and rather unkind. Sorry, I don't mean to offend you, and I hope you'll take my comments in the spirit in which I intend them.

Understood and accepted.

If you care to check back, you will find I have been consistent in my advice to Matt and was (one of) the first to take on board the fact that he has Asperger's . There is no unkind intent at all, just genuine concern that through his fuzzy interpretation of the world he might talk himself into danger.

A friend's child, also 19 year old male, is asperger's. A key step for him to go through was understanding that, while he has a view of the world that is, in his head, absolutely correct and consistent, other people do not necessarily share that perspective. eg in exams he used to ignore the easy marks at the beginning of a question ("Everybody knows that!") and go directly to the tough mark at the end to show how good he was.

In my comments i have nothing but Matt's best interests in mind.

 

[Cycling Dan]

With what has happened i may be worth contacting your local media channels and submit both the videos. You may get it onto online websites through media organisations. If you get the media involved it should provoke a favorable response from company council and police. A response you most likely would not have got without the medias involvement.
The Media i suspect will still be on a mini high after the the war on Britains roads but with this make sure you check what they are going to say about the situation.

 

[Matthew_T]

Can you be sure about that? Of all the drivers you have airzounded in anger after they have passed you (as shown in your close pass videos, most of which most of us would not call a close pass) of all the drivers you have remonstrated at - many of whose faces you do not have on video - maybe he is one of those. Clearly he seemed to know you.

The message some her have been giving you is that, if you go round shouting at random people sooner or later some random person is going to get the hump and shout back. And maybe some random person will do more than shout back. What you have to remember is that most of the videos you see posted are in london or other cities - the same individuals may never cross paths again. You live in a small town where few people cycle and are therefore distinctive and no doubt well known. Those here who know your background cut you slack - there are nutters out there who will not. Be careful.

Yes I am sure. If something had happened, I would have it on file. Everything that happens (no matter how minor) I make into a cut file and after a while, delete the original file if it is taking up too much space. So yes, I can be sure that I have never seen this guy before (apart from NYE) because otherwise I would have it on file and I would be able to find it (I have searched all of my files).

 

[Matthew_T]

With what has happened i may be worth contacting your local media channels and submit both the videos. You may get it onto online websites through media organisations. If you get the media involved it should provoke a favorable response from company council and police. A response you most likely would not have got without the medias involvement.
The Media i suspect will still be on a mini high after the the war on Britains roads but with this make sure you check what they are going to say about the situation.

I think I will wait until I have made a statement with the police. I dont want to jump the gun and start posting the video everywhere. I posted it on YT with the intention of not taking it to the police. They might even ask for it to be listed private for a while during the investigation.
If the police refuse to take any action, then I will go to the media and council. I wont let this lie!

 

[Cycling Dan]

Yes I am sure. If something had happened, I would have it on file. Everything that happens (no matter how minor) I make into a cut file and after a while, delete the original file if it is taking up too much space. So yes, I can be sure that I have never seen this guy before (apart from NYE) because otherwise I would have it on file and I would be able to find it (I have searched all of my files).

Maybe you should be checking her and she seemed to be the instigator in the event. She was the one pushing the driver to catch you etc. I doubt he was the puppeteer but merely the puppet.
Im no expert but he seemed to just go along with it. He was not stating any orders or things to do, he listioned to the woman. She was telling him to do things and such. When he was stating "i will go this way it" seemed like he was seeking approval.
"He's gonna escape you" Suggest she is the one wanting this
"Get him" once again an order/demand to the driver suggesting again shes the one leading the show.
There are a few other lines said which tend to support what im saying.

 

[Lanzecki]

most of which most of us would not call a close pass)

Close passes are close passes because the rider perceives it was a close pass. You or I cannot disagree. My idea of a close pass may be different from yours. Also remember that wide angle camera give an appearance of a less close pass.

 

[Little yellow Brompton]

I think I will wait until I have made a statement with the police. I dont want to jump the gun and start posting the video everywhere. I posted it on YT with the intention of not taking it to the police. They might even ask for it to be listed private for a while during the investigation.
If the police refuse to take any action, then I will go to the media and council. I wont let this lie!

The media is like a 500lb gorilla, when you start to dance with them , you don't stop dancing until they want to. I would be very , very, wary of trying to achieve any sort of result by using the media , history is riddled with stories of people who have been brought low by the story they thought they were trying use.

 

[edindave]

Maybe you should be checking her and she seemed to be the instigator in the event. She was the one pushing the driver to catch you etc. I doubt he was the puppeteer but merely the puppet.
Im no expert but he seemed to just go along with it. He was not stating any orders or things to do, he listioned to the woman. She was telling him to do things and such. When he was stating "i will go this way it" seemed like he was seeking approval.
"He's gonna escape you" Suggest she is the one wanting this
"Get him" once again an order/demand to the driver suggesting again shes the one leading the show.
There are a few other lines said which tend to support what im saying.

Kind of agree with this impression of the video... The driver didn't come across as particularly aggressive. He did show some hesitancy at what he was being encouraged to do. I recall the passenger saying "why did you stop" and goading him on, and him saying at one point something like "I have to think about the licence" although that was a bit muffled so I may have misheard.

I hope the chap doesn't lose his livelihood over what may have been him trying to impress a lady. It would be a very bitter lesson.

 

[Deleted member 20519]

Kind of agree with this impression of the video... The driver didn't come across as particularly aggressive. He did show some hesitancy at what he was being encouraged to do. I recall the passenger saying "why did you stop" and goading him on, and him saying at one point something like "I have to think about the licence" although that was a bit muffled so I may have misheard.

I hope the chap doesn't lose his livelihood over what may have been him trying to impress a lady. It would be a very bitter lesson.

Couldn't he have just said no? And I think it was him that came up with the idea of saying 'now we've got you on camera' or something along the lines of that, he wasn't very aggressive but it is intimidating having someone following you about and then shouting out of their window.