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PaulSB

Squire
It's raining. Very fine rain. :rain:
That would be excellent rain then?
 

PaulSB

Squire
The tomatoes here are still quite nice as long as you pay extra for the ones on the vine. I even found organic in the Co-op the other day so that’s what I have at the moment.
Re the tomato taste thing. One of the businesses I worked with was a major tomato grower as well as producing vast quantities of bedding plants - that was my domain. Without boring you all to death this is the short story. Supermarkets, we supplied a number of majors, demand uniformity, perfect appearance and shelf-life with shelf-life being the number one. Following harvest (picking) the tomatoes would be graded, packed and then chilled overnight, as a minimum, before despatch. If there was over production or insufficient demand harvested tomatoes would be stacked in trays in huge chillers. The chilling process improves shelf-life.

A key component in taste are the sugars the fruit contains. If the sugar content declines, so does the taste. Chilling tomatoes accelerates the breakdown of natural sugars in the fruit leading to long shelf-life but tasteless product. On a Friday afternoon all staff would be given a 1kg bag of tomatoes. The same product from the same plants as went to the supermarkets. They tasted heavenly. The difference? These were not chilled. If you can find tomatoes which have not been chilled the taste will be hugely improved. The small vine tomatoes probably have a higher sugar content initially hence they retain some taste. I'm not sure about that.
 

Mo1959

Legendary Member
Re the tomato taste thing. One of the businesses I worked with was a major tomato grower as well as producing vast quantities of bedding plants - that was my domain. Without boring you all to death this is the short story. Supermarkets, we supplied a number of majors, demand uniformity, perfect appearance and shelf-life with shelf-life being the number one. Following harvest (picking) the tomatoes would be graded, packed and then chilled overnight, as a minimum, before despatch. If there was over production or insufficient demand harvested tomatoes would be stacked in trays in huge chillers. The chilling process improves shelf-life.

A key component in taste are the sugars the fruit contains. If the sugar content declines, so does the taste. Chilling tomatoes accelerates the breakdown of natural sugars in the fruit leading to long shelf-life but tasteless product. On a Friday afternoon all staff would be given a 1kg bag of tomatoes. The same product from the same plants as went to the supermarkets. They tasted heavenly. The difference? These were not chilled. If you can find tomatoes which have not been chilled the taste will be hugely improved. The small vine tomatoes probably have a higher sugar content initially hence they retain some taste. I'm not sure about that.

Totally agree. It’s the length and method of storing our food that is spoiling the taste of many things.

I was over visiting dad’s neighbour last year and came home with a bag of tomatoes freshly picked from his greenhouse and the taste was amazing compared to even the best shop bought.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Totally agree. It’s the length and method of storing our food that is spoiling the taste of many things.

I was over visiting dad’s neighbour last year and came home with a bag of tomatoes freshly picked from his greenhouse and the taste was amazing compared to even the best shop bought.
Yep, you would find the same thing with my tomatoes, cucumbers and potatoes in particular.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I have risen!
 

PaulSB

Squire
@PaulSB iyo do you think farm shop tomatoes would be better than supermarket ones ?
There's a strong chance but it's not guaranteed. There are two types of farm shop, those on the farm and selling home-produced products. Not everything will be there own but the basics will be. In my opinion there is a strong chance the owners will be buying fresh, local and recently harvested produce. Our own local farm shop does this - the base products of lamb and beef are home grown. One can literally go and see next weekend's tea walking around a field!!!

Then we have the other "farm shops." Barton Grange, the best garden centre in the north-west and one of the very best in the UK, has a "farm shop." It's mainly local produce, it's good but it's all bought in from commercial producers. They will be small but will very likely be applying similar techniques to the big boys. It's just common business sense.

The big food issue in this country is we are not prepared to pay for quality. Just look at the price of a chicken. How can that be a happy chicken. Yes, I buy supermarket chicken so I'm not really in a strong moral position!
 

Paulus

Started young, and still going.
Location
Barnet,
Good morning all. A cloudy start to the day here.
Millie has an appointment at the Vets at 9.00 gorgeous another round of acupuncture. There was a noticeable improvement after last week's treatment.
I'll trest myself to a bacon sandwich and a mug of tea at the cafe while we are out before getting the bus back.
Re tomatoes, home grown are always better than supermarket ones, and if you can find a farm shop selling local produce then they won't of been chilled and only travelled a few miles, they will also taste superior. šŸŠ
 
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