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rustybolts

pedalling tediously
Location
Ireland
We have the kids

they left 3 with us and there are 3 still here - I have not killed any of them

but it migth have been close a few times
I "had to have a word" with them - especially the middle one

after that they just needed reminding that there are rules!!

caused by the rain - means we didn;t go out for a walk this morning to burn energy off!

a good thrashing is more effective :evil: :eek:
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
Morning.
Back to normal, grey wet grim.
Xmas tree purchased yesterday so it's decorations day today. That'll keep us and cats entertained for a few hours.

Regarding having shopping checked, it's not happened to me but in principal i'd have no objections. There is so much shop lifting going on then a minor inconvenience to help reduce it wouldn't be an issue for me.

Same here. Been using ASDA scan as you go for about 2-3 years, have had "spot checks" about 3 or 4 times, they tend to scan 10-12 items and if ok (they were) that's it.

Have once had a "bag search" (ie backpack, I was on a cycling outing), in Aldi in France.

I suppose the alternative is they can just let the shop-lifters get away with it, no checks, and, all of us paying customers pay for the thieving in higher prices.
 
a good thrashing is more effective :evil: :eek:

Actually if Pops shouts at them, they are REALLY scared and worried

mostly because it very seldom happens and if they push it THAT far then they know they are in big trouble
We also follow through on threats - so when I told the middle one that if he didn;t start to behave then I would take him back and he could sit with his Gran while I finished off with the otehr 2 - he knew I would do it and that his Gran would be very annoyed with him

putting those togather works far better than anything violen - IMO

But, of course, it is always easier when you only have them for a day or two and can give them back!!!
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Your last line seems totally contradictory to everything you wrote though. You have been actively involved in stopping/catching thieves and that is to be highly commended, especially as you put yourself in harms way which as you stated even the staff were reluctant to do.
However, given all that I'd think you'd be understanding then if a shop requested a check. Don't you think if everyone immediately takes offence and storms off that some shop staff might then think twice before doing a random check or checking a known shop lifter as they don't want the hassle. That way the criminals win.
It's one thing to see people stuffing stock into their clothes, or into a bag, with no intention to pay for the item(s). Another to make the accusation once they've left the shop floor.
I've set the door alarms off on entry, there's metal in one knee, which can create enough electric to set them off.* I'll watch it going out, so as not to "cover someone else" going out. I'd been in one shop to collect something that had to be ordered in, leaving I'd nothing but set the alarm off. Immediately a shop assistant was in front of me accusing me of "nicking stuff" as the alarm couldn't be wrong. Despite intervention by the manager, who'd been the person I'd seen at the counter, he persisted in his claim. Even when I stuck just the one leg through the barrier/gate, setting the alarm off.

This latest shoplifting epidemic is down to the stores wanting you in and out as quick as possible, which is why they're letting you use self scan, scan and go and unmanned checkouts. Despite many longer serving staff, in stores, saying what would happen. It has and the result is we're no longer trusted to use their systems, introduced by them to lower staff numbers.
The other is that retail theft has a lower limit of £300 in most police forces before they will get involved. The "typical" shoplifter knows this and aren't bothered about being challenged. They'll spit in your face, some even carry sharps, not afraid to stick you with them either.

I refuse point blank to use these easier/faster methods of shopping, mainly because they're taking away staff, but also because I don't trust them. The only time I've been made to use them, by an irate staff member "you only have three items", the entire system went down. No-one could pay.

*There's very few shops left using those small plastic cased stick on security tags that use metal plates to generate a faint electric current these days.
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
Actually if Pops shouts at them, they are REALLY scared and worried

mostly because it very seldom happens and if they push it THAT far then they know they are in big trouble
We also follow through on threats - so when I told the middle one that if he didn;t start to behave then I would take him back and he could sit with his Gran while I finished off with the otehr 2 - he knew I would do it and that his Gran would be very annoyed with him

putting those togather works far better than anything violen - IMO

But, of course, it is always easier when you only have them for a day or two and can give them back!!!

All well and good but giving them a 'damn good thrashing' is much more fun :smile:
 

Mo1959

Legendary Member
Pleasant snooze has been snoozed 💤 👌
Time to walk the dog before it gets dark 🐶

I disappeared under the duvet for an hour or so too. Of course Molly came through too and came under the duvet and snuggled up beside me.
 
I very seldom get stopped for a check tha out "Scan and shop"
I did go through a phase once when I was checked pretty much every time
but as I had had a "random" check just before that where I had forgotten to scan bottles of wine that was sort of fair enough!!!

I have also gothome a few times and wondered why the bill was a bit low and then found I had forgotten some things

always totally accidental but it does happen

and I refuse to feel guilty because that is part of the algorithm they used to see if the self scan is worth having
so it is not immoral unless you do it deliberately
IMO anyway

Teh time I forgot the bottle of wine the check was done by someone I used to work with in the last school I was at
which was embarrassing - but I said to her that I refuse to feel guilty because I never went onthe training course
as she knows me she also knows that I am excessively honest at time so we just laughed about it and I went on my way

Morally I can see tha they are a way of reducing costs (i.e. staff)

but I used them because they sit me a lot more as they reduce human interaction and speed things up for me when I just want t oget out of there

They were especially good for me when my brain went haywire many many years ago and for a while shopping at midnight at a 24 hours Tesco and using the self scan was all I could manage - human interaction just made me panic and run away!!!!
 

Binky

Über Member
I'd much rather use self scan checkout as invariably it's quicker. The only time it's annoying is when an item won't scan or whatever and it sends a signal of "need staff to check" or whatever so you're hanging around waiting for one of very few staff to come and assist.
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
I'd much rather use self scan checkout as invariably it's quicker. The only time it's annoying is when an item won't scan or whatever and it sends a signal of "need staff to check" or whatever so you're hanging around waiting for one of very few staff to come and assist.

The Aldi i use has about 6 self service checkouts 3 of which have stacking shelves which are too small for a decent shop, even though I just shop for me.
What they do have is a member of staff permanently on hand for any problems.
 

Binky

Über Member
The Aldi i use has about 6 self service checkouts 3 of which have stacking shelves which are too small for a decent shop, even though I just shop for me.
What they do have is a member of staff permanently on hand for any problems.

As I've said, it's very rare for me to go food shopping for anything other than a few essential items needed before our regular Tesco deliveries. So I'll only have a couple of items so self scan is ideal. I always pay by card so quick and easy. If you get stuck in a serviced queue there's usually someone in front who is paying with cash and fannying around in purse for correct change etc holding everyone up.
My time is more important than anyone elses of course*




*apply this to everyone in world
 
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