AndyRM
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Not a scooby. But it's at least only 2 years out. Last time it was 3.
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Not a scooby. But it's at least only 2 years out. Last time it was 3.
laurentian
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Rugby World Cup 2027 draw
Pool ANew Zealand
Australia
Chile
Hong Kong
Pool B
South Africa
Italy
Georgia
Romania
Pool C
Argentina
Fiji
Spain
Canada
Pool D
Ireland
Scotland
Uruguay
Portugal
Pool E
France
Japan
USA
Samoa
Pool F
England
Wales
Tonga
Zimbabwe
AndyRM
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Groups B, E and F have the most potential for interesting runners up I think. Possibly C as well.
Pross
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Beebo
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Yeah, bit of a battle between England and Tonga for the runner-up place in Group F
You’re going for Zimbabwe to top the group then? Brave call.
laurentian
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I guess, ultimately, we need to ask who is going to beat the Boks.
There's a graphic on the BBC Sport webpage showing that, if everything goes as per current rankings, it would be an England v SA final . . .
There's a graphic on the BBC Sport webpage showing that, if everything goes as per current rankings, it would be an England v SA final . . .
Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
This graphic is useful (from https://www.rugbyworldcup.com/en/ne...to-know-about-the-draw-format-pools-and-dates)
Having a likely NZ-SA quarter final doesn't seem to be ideal.
Here's that BBC graphic. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c898pvndy7go
Having a likely NZ-SA quarter final doesn't seem to be ideal.
Here's that BBC graphic. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c898pvndy7go
Pross
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Why didn't they take it through to show the winner?
Alex321
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How come pools E & F get 4 chances at best 3rd place, while A,B,C,D only get 1 each?
Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
Because there isn't a match in which the winner plays on their own?
Because it never occurred to them to do such a thing?
Or maybe it's because Nigel Starmer-Smith intervened and prevented them from suggesting that England might lose a match.
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Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
It looks weird and I don't quite understand it, but I don't think it's unfair. At least I suspect not. They say "the four best third-place teams will also progress." So I suppose there will be an algorithm that chooses four of the six third placed teams. I assume that choice will be as fair as they can make it.
Now, once they have chosen them, they have to decide who those four play against in the group of 16. They want to avoid putting them up against teams that they've already played. So 3rd place in pool X doesn't meet winner pool X in the 16, and maybe other considerations to keep teams from the same group apart later on.
I think the "Pool X/Y/Z best third" is all about how they distribute those 4 teams in the 16. But I haven't quite figured it out.
Beebo
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No one has any better chances of qualifying.
There are just more variations of where they can end up in the draw.
There are 4 x 3rd place runner up places from 6 pools.
Ultimately a team from E or F might not get through.
Edit. Just see dog trousers reply and think we are saying the same thing.
Alex321
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Dogtrousers
Lefty tighty. Get it righty.
I have an answer for you. It's not very interesting.
In the round of 16, The winners of groups A,B,C&D get to play "best 3rd place teams". But (and this is important) the winners of groups E&F get to play runners up (not 3rd-placers).
Now each time they arrange a fixture of group winners v 3rd placers, they avoid choosing the 3rd place team from the winners group. With me so far?
Now if the 3rd place team comes from E or F this clash never happens because their group winners are playing runners up.
So each time they arrange one of these fixtures they choose the 3rd placer from E,F or one other of ABC or D that is in the opposite side of the draw.
So winner A's opponent is chosen from E, F or C because C is on the opposite side.
The end result is that E and F occur more often in the possible picks.
If that didn't make sense, don't worry. You're not missing much.
