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Maz

Guru
He's probably up there in the firmament now, sitting slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan.
"Hhwell, I'm afwaid we just don't know!"
 

BluesDave

Formerly known as DavidDecorator
Clarion seems to be establishing he has an axe to grind (here and elsewhere) :rolleyes:
Some sad people cannot hide their pathetic obsessions with ists and isms even in the face of such a tragic loss to the world or in Sir Moores case universe. Such people are to be ignored perhaps pitied but not ever taken for anything other than the fools that they are. Rip to the man of the stars.
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
Some sad people cannot hide their pathetic obsessions with ists and isms even in the face of such a tragic loss to the world or in Sir Moores case universe. Such people are to be ignored perhaps pitied but not ever taken for anything other than the fools that they are. Rip to the man of the stars.

Moore was a bigot. I don't know why it's so difficult to acknowledge this. It doesn't invalidate the fact that he inspired and informed an enormous number of people, but there it is. It isn't irrelevant - he used his high profile to pursue a regressive political agenda.
 

GaryA

Subversive Sage
Location
High Shields
Moore was a bigot. I don't know why it's so difficult to acknowledge this. It doesn't invalidate the fact that he inspired and informed an enormous number of people, but there it is. It isn't irrelevant - he used his high profile to pursue a regressive political agenda.

I dont think many people took much notice of the political side...didnt seem to be a formulaic bigot as he toyed around with the monster raving looney party and stood up for animal welfare against the hunting tally-ho mob...
 

Maz

Guru
"Never, never, ever, under any circumstance look directly at The Sun with the naked eye, particularly page 3. You may well go blind..."
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theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
I dont think many people took much notice of the political side...didnt seem to be a formulaic bigot as he toyed around with the monster raving looney party and stood up for animal welfare against the hunting tally-ho mob...

A pretty standard one on the misogyny, homophobia and racism front, I'm afraid. People tended to describe this as "eccentric" or "old-fashioned", which seems to me to be a straightforward euphemism.
 

Noodley

Guest
Has anyone else who has not read this thread properly noticed that there is some mildly amusing anecdotes about his views of politics and political parties? Seriously, you need to post them on here. One never tires of reading the same quote time and time again...nobbers.
 

mcshroom

Bionic Subsonic
A pretty standard one on the misogyny, homophobia and racism front, I'm afraid. People tended to describe this as "eccentric" or "old-fashioned", which seems to me to be a straightforward euphemism.

Heather Cooper wrote to Moore asking if being a girl would hamper her career. "Couldn't believe he replied to me. It says, from Patrick Moore: 'Dear Ms Cooper, many thanks for your letter. Let me assure you on one point - being a girl is no handicap at all'. I just thought that generosity of spirit was fantastic. It really urged me on."

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3650779.htm
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
Once again the world fails to live up to Claudine's high standards... do you actually have any evidence for what you posted, or are you just a daring iconoclast, taking on people who can't answer back?

I'm not taking anyone on, and Moore wasn't shy about saying what he thought, or short of opportunities for doing so. His comments about women, homosexuality and immigrants are all easy enough to find if you've not come across any of them before. I just don't see why the unpleasant aspects of his character need to be glossed over. I concur with what's been said upthread about his talents and qualities as a specialist broadcaster, and with the notion that science is best served by letting the experts have the floor. I liked him when I was a kid, but it's difficult to maintain an affection for someone who clearly regards you as a different and inferior species.
 

theclaud

Openly Marxist
Location
Swansea
I can't quote that, mcshroom, but the most obvious thing to note about it is that he was spectacularly wrong in his reply.
 
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