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martint235

Dog on a bike
Location
Welling
People with a drink problem lie. As any GP will tell you, triple what people report they are drinking and you'll get somewhere near the truth.
Not always. I have a drink problem but never saw the point of lying to my doctor. If I go to see my doctor it means there is something wrong that I'd like fixed. The GP will struggle to do that without all the information available. The last time I was asked was by my cardiologist before Xmas and my response was "I'll drink 12 cans of Kronenbourg on Friday night and the same on Sat however there won't be anything then until the following Friday and then I may not have anything at all". He didn't bat an eyelid or even suggest cutting down.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
But I am in A&E on late shifts all week, at the weekend I'll give my estimate of alcohol related admissions.

No I won't, it'd be pointless, dry January, only 5 days on same shift, in the same A&E etc etc ^_^
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
More or less, Radio 4 last night pointed out that research has been done into the proportion of A&E admissions due to alcohol, and that most of the reporting of that research got it wrong. From memory, overall only about 15% of A&E admissions are alcohol-related. For an hour or so in the small hours of Saturday morning that jumped to 75%. This was for one big-city A&E, if memory serves, so the figures will be different in different places.
 

MarkF

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
More or less, Radio 4 last night pointed out that research has been done into the proportion of A&E admissions due to alcohol, and that most of the reporting of that research got it wrong. From memory, overall only about 15% of A&E admissions are alcohol-related. For an hour or so in the small hours of Saturday morning that jumped to 75%. This was for one big-city A&E, if memory serves, so the figures will be different in different places.

I'd go for those figures even though I'd have guessed at sub10%, as for the 75%, yeah, but admissions are lower in the early hours and kids and old people are not still up and doing silly things, which skews the %.
 

snorri

Legendary Member
It wasn't squirming. It was acknowledging that people will routinely lie about (a) the reason they've ended up in A&E (or at the doctors) and (b) about how much they've had to drink.
Well, it came over as squirming to the lay person.
It wasn't the customer who was making the judgement as to whither alcohol had been consumed, it was the medics. I can't remember the figures now but it was along the lines of a claim being made that 70% of A&E customers attended under the influence. After some arm twisting it was admitted that in fact 70% of customers attending A&E between 0200 and 0300 on a Saturday were under the influence.
If anyone feels they were misrepresented then they should demand compensation from the BBC:biggrin:.
 

srw

It's a bit more complicated than that...
I'll ask Mr R what percentage of the alcohol referrals into his service come from A&E.... I'm willing to bet it'll be the majority.
That says more about the state of our mental health services than about alcohol-induced A&E attendances, though. It's the difference between P(X|A) and P(A|X) again.
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
The chatty man summed it up nicely..

he said i went to A&E on friday night...god..it looked like they bommed Lidl..

im still happy doing my dry Jan..i think
Now you're SURE he said 'bombed' aren't you?
 
Back in the 60s my dad got so drunk his friends took him to A&E. The doc grab a bowl, jabbed him in the stomach with his fingers and when my dad finished throwing up, they kicked him out.
 

Levo-Lon

Guru
An 85 year old got pulled over by a traffic officer at 2am .
may i ask where you going at this time of the day sir..
im off to a lecture on the perils of drinking smoking and late night partying..

oh ,who on earth gives lectures at this time of day?





My wife...
 
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