There are no safe levels of Alcohol consumption ....

[srw]

As for the social engineering comment, I'm confused - are you suggesting that banning alcohol would make for a more working class? If so, pray tell us why no British government in history has banned it? Given most of them were land owning, wealthy employers surely it would have in their interests to have the most compliant work force possible. Still would be.

You might want to look at the history of the licensing laws. My understanding is that they were originally introduced in about 1914 to ensure a compliant workforce for the war effort.

 

[srw]

Why do they have to put it on so late? I'll be off my trolley by then ....

It's a serious Channel 5 programme. They need to keep the main period of the evening clear for their usual tosh that their audiences, and advertisers, like.

 

[Bazzer]

I like how you ignored the rest of my post....



Remember that I deal with pre hospital care, I'd argue that A&E see more of the sober late night emergencies than we do simply because those who are sober are better placed to make their own way to hospital. (Just for SD1, I'll clarify that I can't prove this, but it does seem logical.)
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Based solely upon four late night admissions to A&E, two of which were by ambulance and none of which was alcohol related, I have to say in my limited experience, A&E was littered with people either presenting themselves, or arriving by ambulance, following incidents fueled by alcohol. Many of those in A&E had clearly drunk too much, whilst others had clearly been drinking, but were in the wrong place at the wrong time. And of the admissions, only one was on a Friday night.

When my one of my daughters was a nurse in London, she did a stint in A&E. Her feedback, again anecdotal, was that alcohol played a part in most of the patients seen in A&E during the hours 9pm to 3am.

 

[Fab Foodie]

You might want to look at the history of the licensing laws. My understanding is that they were originally introduced in about 1914 to ensure a compliant workforce for the war effort.

It may be mythapprehension but I thought that the 'hard-drinking Aussie' came out of the fact that during the war the pub was only open for around 1 hour after work finished so they had to get in and get it down their necks smartish!

 

[JoshM]

You might want to look at the history of the licensing laws. My understanding is that they were originally introduced in about 1914 to ensure a compliant workforce for the war effort.

Sober doesn't equal compliant, it means sober. The licensing law wasn't introduced to make those working in munitions factories compliant, it was designed to ensure that with the longer hours doing dangerous work was conducted by sober people because it was safer that way.

It may be mythapprehension but I thought that the 'hard-drinking Aussie' came out of the fact that during the war the pub was only open for around 1 hour after work finished so they had to get in and get it down their necks smartish!

My grandfather says the same. That when pubs closed at 22:00 the men and boys he drunk with as a youngster would have a nip and pint because your time in the pub was limited from after tea to closing. Few people in those days had alcohol in the house so you drank quickly in the pub.

 

[martint235]

Even after opening hours had been relaxed somewhat I was out with a mate and our girlfriends.It got to 10.50pm (pub was to shut at 1am) and one of the girls turned to us and said "Everyone else is slowing down the drinking as it gets later, you two are actually speeding up". We just replied that we were conditioned to drink as much as possible before 11pm

 

[swee'pea99]

It may be mythapprehension but I thought that the 'hard-drinking Aussie' came out of the fact that during the war the pub was only open for around 1 hour after work finished so they had to get in and get it down their necks smartish!

All true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_o'clock_swill. I was told by my uncle that in some of the less salubrious pubs, of which there were a fair few, the bar was surrounded by a deep 'spittoon', in truth provided so that drinkers loath to lose their place at the bar for fear of being unable to regain access could...um....relax..... and continue drinking.

 

[Andrew_P]

Simple really any A&E appearance caused directly by imbibing alcohol gets charged for the pleasure. The same as not attending a GP appointment. I couldn't believe the amount of no shows at my practice if the rolling TV news in the waiting room was right.

What I am not too sure of is the government preoccupation with keeping us all alive as long as possible. Low or no pension, have to cash in assets for care and if my recent experience is anything to go by even when you do try and pop your clogs post stroke aged 90+ the feckers keep bringing you back

 

[SD1]

Perhaps you'd be a more pleasant person to be around if you'd stop throwing snide comments around and looked more deeply at what you're attempting

"He's definitly an alc, he can't even remember his name." Obviously a joke. Who was I making a snide remark about?

 

[SD1]

Now who's being inaccurate in their reporting of facts. Show me where it says 1 pint a day WILL give you cancer? I thought it reported a slight increase in the risk of getting cancer.... For the record, I e

Therefore you have a greater chance of getting cancer.

 

[SD1]

As for the social engineering comment, I'm confused - are you suggesting that banning alcohol would make for a more working class? If so, pray tell us why no British government in history has banned it? Given most of them were land owning, wealthy employers surely it would have in their interests to have the most compliant work force possible. Still would be.

@srw appears to have answered that. I would add that in a rural area if you talk to retired farm labourers they often say "I have never been inside a public house". Obviously the farmer had greater control over them.
"You and your lot"!!! Assume if you come up with enough bullshite about alcohol you will wear the thick working class into giving up drink and you will get a more compliant working class. You will of course continue to drink at your dinner parties. Tee hee. I am of course, not being serious. Honest

 

[SD1]

You can give a 'Do Not Resuscitate' order.... but make sure you tell your family. They're normally the ones who try to override these.

Got my mother to say what she wanted while sorting out my lasting power of attorney. The doctor makes the decision.

 

[SD1]

Given most of them were land owning, wealthy employers surely it would have in their interests to have the most compliant work force possible. Still would be.

It is I am afraid at the end of the day, the electorate who tell the government what to do on the big issues. Ban alcohol no chance of being elected.

 

[Fab Foodie]

It's a serious Channel 5 programme. They need to keep the main period of the evening clear for their usual tosh that their audiences, and advertisers, like.

Sadly I missed it because I had to walk the dog ....

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

What I am not too sure of is the government preoccupation with keeping us all alive as long as possible. Low or no pension, have to cash in assets for care and if my recent experience is anything to go by even when you do try and pop your clogs post stroke aged 90+ the feckers keep bringing you back

I agree. My late uncle had a dreadful last few years thanks to the NHS keep alive at all costs policy. He was in his nineties and had just had enough. But they wouldn't let him.