There are no safe levels of Alcohol consumption ....

[SD1]

TBH I think Josh's estimate of late night alcohol admissions being 85% sounds about right, who else goes in? Old folk falling over, car crashes and that's about it.

Not that I think the impact on the NHS is anything compared to fatso's and keeping old folk (bodies) alive.

Although Fatso's have a choice!
PS me I have been in at 2am (ish) twice. Neither involving alcohol.

 

[SD1]

People will always drink as much as they want to, I dont think Governement guidelines make any difference whatsoever.

Could have the opposite effect.

 

[JoshM]

It is not pedantry you made up the figure. That said thank you.

I like how you ignored the rest of my post....

TBH I think Josh's estimate of late night alcohol admissions being 85% sounds about right, who else goes in? Old folk falling over, car crashes and that's about it.

Not that I think the alcohol related impact on the NHS is anything compared to fatso's and keeping old folk (bodies) alive. But but boozing is far easier to medialise.

Remember that I deal with pre hospital care, I'd argue that A&E see more of the sober late night emergencies than we do simply because those who are sober are better placed to make their own way to hospital. (Just for SD1, I'll clarify that I can't prove this, but it does seem logical.)

Alcohol isn't just a health care problem, it is a social problem in a way that being overweight isn't, beyond the cost and demand implications of weight related health complications, the majority of the ill effects of obesity largely only impact the overweight person and their family/friends. That said Telling people their health is a risk if they repeatedly drink too much won't make many people rethink their drinking habits. Drinkers already know they risk ill health if they drink too much too often, all this research does is suggest that the risks begin at lower levels of alcohol consumption than previously thought. Only a societal shift in attitudes towards alcohol will have a significant impact on how much individuals drink, just like drink driving and smoking. Also for the record, I'm not saying that a societal shift in attitude should require all of us to go T-total, but I'd like to see the problems associated with regular excessive consumption being less celebrated. Not remembering the night before should not be a badge of honour, nor should spending the night in the cells for a Friday night brawl be an acceptable regular occurrence.

 

[martint235]

TBH I think Josh's estimate of late night alcohol admissions being 85% sounds about right, who else goes in? Old folk falling over, car crashes and that's about it.

Not that I think the alcohol related impact on the NHS is anything compared to fatso's and keeping old folk (bodies) alive. But but boozing is far easier to medialise.

This is a touchy subject in my family. My 87 year old dad has pretty much had enough. He's not suicidal by a long way but feels he should now just be left to die in peace yet the NHS insists on doing everything in its power to keep him alive or at least would do if he'd let them which he won't. I suspect this is also driven by targets/statistics rather than any quality of life considerations.

 

[martint235]

Although Fatso's have a choice!
PS me I have been in at 2am (ish) twice. Neither involving alcohol.

Well done. So shall we extrapolate your experience to cover the other 65 million people.

 

[albion]

Why release such contradictry advice?

It will simply leave some people doubting most of it. I went teetotal before xmas.
This time it is fairly likely to be a permanent move.

 

[SD1]

Alcohol isn't just a health care problem, it is a social problem in a way that bei

I suggested it is a form of social engineering. The aim being to introduce a self imposed prohibition, NOT for medical reasons but social reasons.

As I stated it is entirely social engineering. The aim is to have a more compliant working class. The statistics are ludicrous. One pint a day will give you cancer and.....bollocks. It will do no such thing. AND Cider/Perry is part of your 5 a day!!!, so utter bollocks!

 

[SD1]

Why do I find that hard to believe...?

Because you have difficulty believing anything that doesn't support your preconceived rancid mind.
"Rancid mind" I like that, I will save it for further use in our little "discussions".

 

[SD1]

Whatever floats your addled boat...

Rancid addled mind....no that doesn't work.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Heard from the tranny* today that there is a programme about alcoholics on C5 tonight. R4 had an interview .... sounded interesting ....

*[EDIT: This is what we used to call a radio before we'd heard of the term LGBT and nothing about my own gender preferences or lifestyle (not that that is an issue) .... should be inferred by such usage]

 

[SD1]

"I'm An Alcoholic: My Name Is..." - 10 p.m. tonight.

He's definitly an alc, he can't even remember his name.

 

[hopless500]

but I tried to drink a tiny glass of Port with Cheese and crackers the other day, and I couldn't - I'd normally knock it back. Found it too strong ?

 

[JoshM]

As I stated it is entirely social engineering. The aim is to have a more compliant working class. The statistics are ludicrous. One pint a day will give you cancer and.....bollocks. It will do no such thing. AND Cider/Perry is part of your 5 a day!!!, so utter bollocks!

Now who's being inaccurate in their reporting of facts. Show me where it says 1 pint a day WILL give you cancer? I thought it reported a slight increase in the risk of getting cancer.... For the record, I expect you to ignore this question.

As for the social engineering comment, I'm confused - are you suggesting that banning alcohol would make for a more working class? If so, pray tell us why no British government in history has banned it? Given most of them were land owning, wealthy employers surely it would have in their interests to have the most compliant work force possible. Still would be.

"I'm An Alcoholic: My Name Is..." - 10 p.m. tonight.

Sounds interesting, I'm a little put off by the fact it's C5 though...

He's definitly an alc, he can't even remember his name.

Perhaps you'd be a more pleasant person to be around if you'd stop throwing snide comments around and looked more deeply at what you're attempting to cover up with them. You might even be happier.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Perhaps you'd be a more pleasant person to be around if you'd stop throwing snide comments around and looked more deeply at what you're attempting to cover up with them. You might even be happier.

To be fair, I was about to post the same 'joke' but didn't want SD1 to be awarded a TMN

 

[Fab Foodie]

"I'm An Alcoholic: My Name Is..." - 10 p.m. tonight.

Why do they have to put it on so late? I'll be off my trolley by then ....