THIS grinds my gears......

[Ajax Bay]

 

[T4tomo]

..........chain / drive-train lubrication.

Apologies if this is the 4-trillionth thread on it. But having quite a few bikes, and hoping to do alot more riding this year - i'd like to not be 'maintaining' in every spare interim moment

I've religiously been using Tru-Tension Bannaslip with Tungsten for a couple of years (?). Came recommended and is pretty highly rated [4.4/5 on amazon]. After cleaning up old. application of new and drying the drivetrain sounded GREAT. Quiet, slippery etc. And lasted for 100-150 miles before i could hear the difference. No huge issue as i'm a serial cleaner. So a quick wipe / re-lube was not too much hassle once i already had the bike upside-down. **It went on / was kind of a Grey colour; but by 100 miles was pretty 'Black' - and i'm not sure if a component of it was Oil-based. But it soon changed colour. Indicating it was changing / picking up dirt etc

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BananaSlip...9103880789-B07TWG1KTT-&hvexpln=0&gad_source=1

So before i went on Holiday i literally stripped the chain completely, 100% thoroughly cleaned the rear sprocket / front mech with spirits until spotless - and then lubricated with some Weldtite Dry Wax - which again had good reviews and i happened to have some i didn't know about [4.4/5 on Amazon]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/WELDTITE-D...19666-B00WKRC4FU-&hvexpln=0&gad_source=1&th=1

I came back from Hols and did a 50km / 31m ride on Tuesday in the dry. And 25 miles commuting yesterday - so 56 miles total. And the chain sounds dry / noisy as heck compared to when freshly lubed. Surely this can't be normal / expected so quickly ?

*I may be getting close to new chain time (?). I'm imagining from looking at Strava mileage records; this one could have done around 1500 miles. Most of that in Winter. So i'm probably going to change that regardless at the weekend. **Rear sprocket and crank sprockets are both newer than the chain.

But how many (Predominantly 90% dry) miles should i see before seeing / hearing / noticing serious degredation of chain lubrication ?

Any / all / every thought and suggestion appreciated

wax based lubricants are best applied just after a ride rather than just before, so they have time so soak in and "dry" (solvent evaporate) then its ready to go next ride. give chain a quick wipe clean, apply wax lube, spin chain around a few times and hang your bike up.

If you just lube and ride it doesn't do as good a job.

 

[sevenfourate]

Should that be elongating the truth?

My words were very carefully chosen. My thinly veiled humour still seemingly eluded you.

**I must try harder 😁

 

[Binky]

Meh, I just say the chain has worn which is what happens. The length of chain will be longer after say 3k miles than a new one but it hasn't stretched, it's become worn through use.

But let's be honest if a cyclist says their chain needs replacing because it's stretched I'd think most if not all know what they meant.

Regards chain lubrication I use Squirt. Seems to work well, lot less mess and no chain tatoo which whenever I've hired a bike abroad I inevitably get as they oil the chain not wax.

 

[sevenfourate]

Meh, I just say the chain has worn which is what happens. The length of chain will be longer after say 3k miles than a new one but it hasn't stretched, it's become worn through use.

But let's be honest if a cyclist says their chain needs replacing because it's stretched I'd think most if not all know what they meant.

Bravo !

 

[Mike Ayling]

Meh, I just say the chain has worn which is what happens. The length of chain will be longer after say 3k miles than a new one but it hasn't stretched, it's become worn through use.

But let's be honest if a cyclist says their chain needs replacing because it's stretched I'd think most if not all know what they meant.

Regards chain lubrication I use Squirt. Seems to work well, lot less mess and no chain tatoo which whenever I've hired a bike abroad I inevitably get as they oil the chain not wax.

I have used Squirt for some time.

 

[Binky]

I have used Squirt for some time.

Yes I've always used it. Seems good although not ideal for wet weather but then again I avoid that.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Now, if your chain separates or breaks under tension is it permissible to use the term "snapped" I wonder? Or would this give the potentially erroneous impression that the failure was accompanied with a sharp cracking sound, which may not have been the case, depending on the failure mode.

 

[T4tomo]

Now, if your chain separates or breaks under tension is it permissible to use the term "snapped" I wonder? Or would this give the potentially erroneous impression that the failure was accompanied with a sharp cracking sound, which may not have been the case, depending on the failure mode.

Yes , or "snipped" if it was sabotage.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Now, if your chain separates or breaks under tension is it permissible to use the term "snapped" I wonder? Or would this give the potentially erroneous impression that the failure was accompanied with a sharp cracking sound, which may not have been the case, depending on the failure mode.

My chain seems to have rapidly disassembled my man

 

[Dogtrousers]

And as for "chain suck", we really must stop using this misleading term.

 

[matticus]

Now, if your chain separates or breaks under tension is it permissible to use the term "snapped" I wonder? Or would this give the potentially erroneous impression that the failure was accompanied with a sharp cracking sound, which may not have been the case, depending on the failure mode.

I prefer
"Crackled" or
"Popped".

 

[Alex321]

And as for "chain suck", we really must stop using this misleading term.

Never heard that one?

What context is it used in (misleading or not)?

 

[Dogtrousers]

Never heard that one?

What context is it used in (misleading or not)?

Chain Suck — when the bicycle chain fails to disengage from the teeth of a chainring-usually during a shift-and wraps back up and around the chainring.
https://www.mtbr.com/threads/workbench-how-to-un-suck-your-chainsuck.1169608/

 

[Ajax Bay]

Chain suck on my inner ring (30t) - climbing Wrynose: the steep side going west - an unalloyed pleasure. New chain, new cassette, worn ring.