Kirstie said:Following on from Fnaars post - I've been in the situation myself, but actually present at the accident. A few years ago, my other half crashed off his mtb, breaking his jaw in 3 places and dislocating and fracturing his elbow. All I could do was call the ambulance, after finding him face down in a massive pool of blood, go with him in the helicopter to hospital, and listen to his screams of pain when they moved him, watch him lying there shudding with shock as they cut his clothes off him and reasure him as he was absolutely terrified. It was the worst day of my life.
Arch said:Horrible. But at least you could do something, and did, and I assume, he's OK now? Cling to the positive.
Being too late to do anything. That's the worst.
Kirstie said:FWIW I spend my entire life clinging to the positive....
papercorn2000 said:That's a difficult one Fnarr. IME, I 've been at incidents where someone was cut out of a car, stinking of drink but unconscious. In those cases, he can't be breathalysed and can't give consent to the taking of a blood sample. It is up to the doctor when he gets to hospital whether or not he is fit to have blood taken (If I remember). And in cases like this, saving the guys life is the priority and, by the time there's an opportunity to take blood for a sample, the level of alcohol in the sample is too low to prosecute.
It's then up to the police on the scene to submit a report. However, all they have is that the guy is stinking of drink. Any erratic behaviour is easily (by a defence counsel) written off as shock due to the accident.
Arch said:Good.Sorry, I got a bit black there, didn't mean to drag everyone down...
Sore Thumb said:Well I suppose I work at the sharp end of these accidents and have seen many of these on the operating table.
Not sure about doctors taking blood samples. As we had a patient and the Anaesthetic Doctor was asked by a police officer to take a blood sample before any blood was given to the patient.
The doctor refused as he was not trained to take samples for evidence by the police, and if the police wanted a sample they would have to get a police surgeon (this is a doctor that works for the police).
Well this patient was in a critical condition and needed blood fast, so there was no time to get in the police surgeon. To say the police were not happy was an understatement.