This mornings idiot

[dondare]

What do the majority of cyclists tend to do when travelling in the other direction on this street?
Do they wait for a gap in motorised traffic or press on carefully in the knowledge that they can squeeze through anyway?

This, of course, is the point. Cyclists shouldn't have to wait for a gap in the motorised traffic when they are coming from this direction because they have priority: the motorised traffic should give way.
The test would be what does Cab do when he's riding the other way; wait, or squeeze through?

 

[spindrift]

I think you come across as a bit of a cycling Hitler.

this thread is dead now, move along, nothing to see.

 

[Cab]

OK, put it this way, imagine my post was the first response.

And instead of referring you to where I've addressed the points you raise, repeat myself? No.

 

[BentMikey]

Cab, any chance you might accept that perhaps you were a bit too militant here?

 

[Cab]

I think you addressed the matter well to a point, and the driver was at fault. I am guessing the driver was not local so did make an error without looking at the sign. If he/she were local i don't think this mistake would of happened. If i was in that position i would of went past the slow moving car and hope it does not happen again.

Locals do it there too I'm afraid; you see the same cars day in, day out, always intentionally breaking the rules there. Shame, really.

 

[joebe]

Fair enough, but could you point out the videos where I have in any way manufactured the incident?

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But let's not open up old wounds.

 

[Cab]

Oh, I'd understand the sign. No problem there. I just wouldn't have considered there to have been a problem. It looked to me as though there was room to pass safely (and I do accept the camera may distort that view). That's all that would have concerned me in honesty. I don't go around asserting my rights just because. Too easy going for that.

I didn't stop and tell him 'because'.

I stopped and told him because if as a cyclist I choose to pootle down the side of the car, the car will neither slow down nor will he move right over to the other side, he'll miss me (the oncoming obstruction) and the bollards (static obstruction) more or less equidistantly, meaning I'll be facing an oncoming, accelerating vehicle missing me by far less than you see in the video (I estimate from watching other cyclists there that this would be six inches or so) while also keeping a wary eye out at the hidden pedestrian entrances.

By stopping and slowing the traffic down I had more room and could safely pass.

 

[BentMikey]

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But let's not open up old wounds.

How is that a manufactured incident? Poorly planned overtake, yes, but then I've done that myself.

 

[Cab]

I'm sorry mate, but I think that all you've done is made another car driver think that cyclists are jumped-up twats!

There was plenty of room. The cyclists right in front of you passed the car without any problem, the car was driving very slowly,

Further cut unread.

Read the comments and responses in a thread before posting.

 

[magnatom]

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But let's not open up old wounds.

Why say, lets not open up old wounds and then open one....

I didn't manufacture that. I have actually on here, and on youtube admitted that I probably shouldn't have overtaken. I made a mistake (although the lady in the car overreacted, so you could say she manufactured it!). I now don't filter there when there is oncoming traffic. So by posting that video I have improved my cycling. Would you then agree that there is good reason for posting videos like these, so long as the poster has an open mind?

 

[Cab]

Sorry to be so blunt

See my earlier comments about why the other cyclist had a slow vehicle approaching him and more space than he normally would have done, i.e. there was another cyclist right behind him (me) stopping the traffic.

 

[Cab]

We also have to take into account the fact that cab might have had some more serious incidents on this section of road. These experiences might suggest to cab that his approach is the best approach.

The situation is really very simple. Go down the side of the oncoming vehicle and when you pass it is still accelerating, you've got bollards and hidden pedestrian access down one side and a car missing you with inches to spare on the other. Having talked to the planners who designed this section, they were quite clear that if there had been room for a cycle lane there they would have installed one; and remember, we've got plenty of cycle lanes in Cambridgeshire that are no wider than a bicycle!

I ride that section every day, and I've tried all ways to find the safest way to ride it. I've been clipped by oncoming vehicles there, which is frightening. Truly, the only really safe way is to stop the traffic.

It took years to get the bus companies to take this seriously, now for busses to break the rules there is quite rare. Currently working on the taxi companies, thats even harder.

 

[domd1979]

Taking a primary position to slow the oncoming car down - fine, but was it necessary to stop him and then stand in the road ranting?

I ride that section every day, and I've tried all ways to find the safest way to ride it. I've been clipped by oncoming vehicles there, which is frightening. Truly, the only really safe way is to stop the traffic.

 

[Cab]

If you watch the film between 0:15 and 0:17 its pretty obvious that there's sufficient room to pass. Pausing the film and comparing the width of road available to the width of the Audi shows that.

It never ceases to amaze me how people ignore preceding comments before opening their gobs.

The car gave more road space and slowed down because I was right in the middle of the road. Had I not been there, making him do so, he would not have done so. That is the experience of using that road day in, day out.

I created a safer situation by my actions, such would not have been the case otherwise.

You're right, we weren't there. That didn't stop Cab going on ad infinitum for 60 pages on that thread (potentially the longest thread ever on Commuting?)

(remainder cut unread)

You mean, the one where when people stopped whining and simply making noise, the original poster accepted that the point I was putting to her was correct? The one where I was, according to the one eye witness we had, correct?

 

[magnatom]

I ride that section every day, and I've tried all ways to find the safest way to ride it. I've been clipped by oncoming vehicles there, which is frightening. Truly, the only really safe way is to stop the traffic.

I think you should have mentioned this before. If I had experience of being clipped here I would probably be as cautious as you. Experience of this section is something that most poster on here don't have. That is why it is sometimes difficult to see the point of view of the cyclist videoing, because we don't have the local knowledge.